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14:25:03 <nosgitusevo> hi
14:25:25 <nosgitusevo> I've read some nasty things about liberkey, but that only after I downloaded some apps from them
14:25:33 <nosgitusevo> Is there any danger?
14:27:04 <Gizmokid2005> nosgitusevo: if you use common sense and have an antivirus, probably not a whole lot
14:27:12 <Gizmokid2005> except with a lot of their stuff being less than legal...
14:27:24 <nosgitusevo> I'm confuse
14:27:26 <nosgitusevo> +d
14:27:36 <nosgitusevo> For example, I got paint.net portable from them
14:28:21 <nosgitusevo> However, after looking at the paint.net page, I see they gave permission
14:28:38 <Gizmokid2005> yes, which could be just fine
14:28:49 <Gizmokid2005> the problem is that they rip off a lot of the work that is done here
14:28:52 <Gizmokid2005> and call it their own.
14:31:47 <nosgitusevo> Hmmm, yeah
14:31:49 <nosgitusevo> Pretty dirty
14:32:03 <nosgitusevo> Is there any other groups/packs I should beware of?
14:32:35 <nosgitusevo> I also regularly mix and match stuff from winpenpack and pendriveapps.com
14:32:58 <Gizmokid2005> those two are fine
14:33:08 <Gizmokid2005> stray from PortableAppz though (notice the Z)
14:33:29 <nosgitusevo> heh, I just looked now
14:33:41 <nosgitusevo> Seems like he takes warez and puts them in the pa format?
14:34:23 <Gizmokid2005> that's the general idea, yes.
14:34:35 <nosgitusevo> hahahaha... Kaspesky portable!
14:34:40 <nosgitusevo> Sorry, but -that's- funny
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14:36:16 <Gizmokid2005> nosgitusevo: you'll notice a lot of things like that are.
14:36:16 <pa_2768> In stalled portable app on jump drive and program list is empty, any thoughts?
14:36:26 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2768: you need to install programs too
14:36:31 <Gizmokid2005> you just installed the platform
14:36:38 <Gizmokid2005> or the Menu as it's also known as
14:37:03 <nosgitusevo> pa_2768: yep, programs are not included by default... you need to build your own list up
14:37:03 <pa_2768> are the installs on the jump drive?
14:37:31 <nosgitusevo> pa_2768: click start.exe, go to Apps, select Get More Apps
14:37:38 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2768: no. You can use the application manager
14:37:44 <Gizmokid2005> just like nosgitusevo said above ^^
14:38:37 <pa_2768> thanks
14:39:33 <nosgitusevo> I actually prefer it that way
14:39:44 <nosgitusevo> It's nice to be able to build your own library of preferred apps
14:40:24 <nosgitusevo> For example, I'll use Foxit but not Sumatra, LibreOffice instead of OO.o, and I just don't really like Clam
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14:46:07 <Gizmokid2005> well, OO is effectively dead.
14:47:35 <nosgitusevo> Yeah, that's why I'm for LibreOffice
14:56:28 <nosgitusevo> A good piece of software to include would be Emsisoft's scanner
14:56:40 <nosgitusevo> But you guys don't like closed-source, right?
14:59:24 <Gizmokid2005> we don't do closed-source, usually.
14:59:37 <Gizmokid2005> things like TeamViewer and Skype are more/less supported by the publisher.
15:00:41 <nosgitusevo> Pity
15:00:54 <nosgitusevo> Emsisoft is -really- good, and far better than ClamWin, imho
15:01:09 <nosgitusevo> But I've still added it to my own PA bundle :)
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16:40:09 <Pedro> hola
16:42:32 <Simeon> hi
16:43:03 <Simeon> Can I help you with something?
16:45:45 <Pedro> How I can clean my applications (temporary files, cookies, etc ...) I usually did with Ccleaner, but this does not clean the portable programs that I have on my usb. Is there any software that does the same as Ccleaner, but for portables?
16:49:09 <Simeon> short answer: no.
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16:49:59 <Simeon> long answer: firefox's temp files are in RAM so thats not an issue. cookies and such are handled within firefox so you could set it to forget them on exit.
16:50:21 <Simeon> it really depends on the app in question. There is no "one app for all"-app.
16:54:40 <Pedro> I understand. I really thought I could find some one-click program to help me with cleaning chat, firefox, Google Chrome, etc ...
16:57:40 <Simeon> I personally dont find it so importand as everything personal is comtained on my usb drive.
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16:57:49 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
16:58:53 <Simeon> Someone could write plugins for Bleachbit.
17:00:18 <Pedro> On the other hand, I wanted to know if there is any way that my "thunderbird" does not grow much in size. It has 2 GB and growing. I thought that having my emails configured as IMAP, would remain on the server, but apparently not.
17:05:10 <Simeon> i dont use IMAP but I think the mails are copied locally.
17:06:12 <Pedro> is there any way to prevent emails from being copied locally?
17:07:37 <Simeon> yes: http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/imap-synchronization?s=imap&as=s
17:07:56 <Simeon> you can specify it in the account settings
17:10:12 <Pedro> Simeon thank you very much, you've been very helpful.
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17:10:32 <Simeon> glad i could help
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18:41:35 <Simeon> another SMAP-wave. Looks like someone is trying to make a point or something
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19:19:39 <sebasn91> Hello
19:19:59 <techfreak243> hey whats up?
19:20:26 <sebasn91> Anyone know how to install a portable app (not from portableapps.com) so I can launch it from the portableapps platform?
19:20:57 <GordCaswell|AFK> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps
19:21:01 <GordCaswell|AFK> .title
19:21:02 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell|AFK: PortableApps.com Platform and Suite Support | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB, portable and cloud drives
19:21:15 <techfreak243> .help
19:22:18 <GordCaswell|AFK> sebasn91: that link should help
19:22:34 <GordCaswell|AFK> techfreak243: looking for what commands you can use?
19:22:40 <techfreak243> yeah
19:22:46 <sebasn91> yes, Im reading it
19:22:49 <sebasn91> thank you a lot!
19:22:57 <GordCaswell|AFK> sebasn91: no problem
19:24:14 <techfreak243> what are the commands?
19:24:48 <GordCaswell|AFK> techfreak243: there's no list at the moment
19:25:00 <sebasn91> it worked as well
19:25:03 <techfreak243> new bot?
19:25:24 <GordCaswell|AFK> nope, the list isn't maintained anymore
19:25:39 <sebasn91> is it possible to place that app in a category, for example "music"?
19:25:54 <techfreak243> who made the bot
19:25:58 <GordCaswell|AFK> yep. right click on the app, go to category, and then change the category
19:26:12 <GordCaswell|AFK> Gizmokid2005 did, AFIK
19:26:25 <sebasn91> ok, thank you!
19:26:27 <techfreak243> why didnt he make a list?
19:26:58 <GordCaswell|AFK> there was one maintained, but it isn't maintained anymore
19:27:00 <Gizmokid2005> techfreak243: because maintaining such a list isn't feasible
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21:55:02 <GordCaswell|AFK> hi JohnTHaller
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21:57:59 <JohnTHaller> howdy
21:58:14 <GordCaswell> how goes it?
21:58:28 <JohnTHaller> it goes. waiting for my bathroom to be repaired
21:58:57 <GordCaswell> kind of an important repair...
21:59:20 <JohnTHaller> yeah. leaking into the downstairs apt.
21:59:32 <GordCaswell> ouch
22:00:25 <GordCaswell> have you heard back from Josh yet about his apps?
22:00:41 <JohnTHaller> Nope. So we'll likely have to take em all over.
22:02:36 <GordCaswell> hmm. K. I'll send you System Explorer shortly then
22:06:38 <JohnTHaller> Thanks. I'll host it on our freeware site until I get access to their FTP server.
22:07:02 <GordCaswell> Ok, sounds good
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22:44:47 <GordCaswell> JohnTHaller: https://bitbucket.org/GordCaswell/systemexplorerportable/downloads/SystemExplorerPortable_3.7.1.paf.exe
22:44:57 <JohnTHaller> Thanks man
22:45:04 <JohnTHaller> got it
22:45:15 <GordCaswell> as well as updating the base app, i also updated to apptemplate 2.2, and a couple other small fixes
22:45:24 <JohnTHaller> cool
22:46:40 <GordCaswell> Are any of the other outdated ones his?
22:46:47 <JohnTHaller> dunno
22:47:12 <GordCaswell> k. time for some investigating on my part then
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22:50:12 <vf2nsr> I think Listary was his too
22:50:47 <GordCaswell> yep
22:53:28 <vf2nsr> crystla disk?
22:53:38 <vf2nsr> crystaldiskinfo
22:54:10 <vf2nsr> todolist
22:54:24 <GordCaswell> both crystaldisk ones
22:55:19 <vf2nsr> yes was about to hit the second on elol
22:55:34 <vf2nsr> dyslexic fingers today sorry
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22:57:03 <GordCaswell_> JTH: can you kick GordCaswell for me?
22:57:56 <vf2nsr> and all this time I thought i was seeing double lol
22:58:04 <GordCaswell_> wait, don't kick, i've gotta do something with nickserv
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23:00:02 <GordCaswell> ah, there's the right command...
23:01:42 <vf2nsr> wb
23:02:25 <GordCaswell> thanks. that took way too much nickserv help lists to find the right command, and then pchat disconnected me anyway
23:05:00 <vf2nsr> looks like another spammer has arrived
23:05:23 <vf2nsr> if I wanted to watch the game I would turn on the tv
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23:47:11 <kAlug> Hi all, Gord, John, vf, M.ir... (and everybody else)
23:47:22 <GordCaswell> hey kAlug
23:51:59 <kAlug> GordCaswell: how much beneficial is to work with the developers of an open-source app?
23:53:41 <GordCaswell> There's the ability to have them promote our package, for one thing
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23:54:26 <kAlug> Yeah, I was thinking on exactly that...
23:59:25 <kAlug> I'm thinking on contacting the Clementine devs... the only problem is that I had a small "disagreement" with a member of their community when I started working on it (also, I have almost no writing skills...).