IRC Log from 2012-02-03

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01:36:23 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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02:29:22 <pa_6799> is there download links to older versions of portable apps? I'm looking for anything that can still run on windows 9x, particulary foxit reader
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02:34:59 <Aerok> pa_6799: Not for Win9x.
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11:56:55 <pa_0390> have you made a portibal
11:56:58 <pa_0390> version of skype
11:57:54 <pa_0390> DIMMY
11:58:01 <pa_0390> DIMMY SAID U HAVE POTIBAL VESIN OF SKYPE
11:58:08 <pa_0390> DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU DESU
11:58:14 <pa_0390> Y U NO GO 4CHAN
11:58:21 <pa_0390> PORTIBAL 4CHAN
11:58:29 <pa_0390> IN B4 BAN
11:58:43 <pa_0390> IN B4INB4
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12:21:46 <techfreak243> you crazy?
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12:57:19 <Gizmokid2005> *sigh*
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18:04:24 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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18:04:32 <GizmoBot> ...
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19:07:07 <kibble> help!
19:07:07 <GizmoBot> kibble: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
19:07:38 <kibble> Google Chrome is reporting that portableapps.com is hosting malware.
19:08:04 <kibble> I get the "Malware Detected! Warning: Something's Not Right Here!" screen when I try to visit.
19:08:35 <kibble> Google's Safe Browsing Report says there aren't any errors (<http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=http%3A%2F%2Fportableapps.com%2F&client=googlechrome&hl=en-US>), but you're still not going to get many people to visit the site if Google is throwing up that wall.
19:09:30 <kibble> You get a similar error message when you try to visit the site through Google Search: <https://encrypted.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=portableapps&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fportableapps.com%2F&ei=wzAsT5zlDMHeggebjdnSDw&usg=AFQjCNGe6PGbuO5doILWyNsMtO6XJBzDIQ>
19:12:19 <kibble> It looks like Norton is throwing up errors too: http://portableapps.com/node/30962
19:12:31 <kibble> ping ZachThibeau GizmoBot OliverK|Away
19:12:56 <kibble> Gizmokid2005 *
19:15:04 <ZachThibeau> stop randomly pinging people, as noted in the topic the issue should be resolved, the issue is not with site directly, someone must of reported it as an attack site as some sort of sick twisted plot of removing us out of the game or something, but we never host malware
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19:16:02 <kAlug> kibble: .
19:16:38 <kibble> kAlug: pong
19:16:59 <kibble> ZachThibeau: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | PortableApps.com flash drives are now available! http://worldsbestflashdrive.com/ | This channel is logged: http://g2k5.us/6h | The channel rules are here: http://g2k5.us/6g - Read and abide by them]"
19:17:07 <kibble> Where does it say in there anything about this error?
19:17:27 <ZachThibeau> does not mean you can go pinging people at random
19:17:33 <kAlug> kibble: The topic you linked to before.
19:17:59 <kibble> ZachThibeau: I pinged the people with the @next to their names. Oh, the price you pay as an operator of a channel. :-)
19:18:38 <ZachThibeau> read the channel rules
19:19:48 <kibble> But anyway, I suggest you add that to the topic. If a site is down or reporting malware, a sysadmin is going to want to get that fixed as quick as possible... I work with Wikipedia a lot, so I know how that works on a big scale.
19:20:36 <ZachThibeau> the issue is already known and is being dealt with, as noted in the url you gave John T Haller our project leader already knows
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19:34:46 <pa_0414> Hello
19:35:00 <pa_0414> This site is hacked
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19:39:47 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. If you need assistance, just say "help!" | PortableApps.com flash drives are now available! http://worldsbestflashdrive.com/ | This channel is logged: http://g2k5.us/6h | The channel rules are here: http://g2k5.us/6g - Read and abide by them"
19:41:19 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "We are aware of the issue with the site. This is a FALSE warning! | Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. If you need assistance, just say "help!" | PortableApps.com flash drives are now available! http://worldsbestflashdrive.com/ | This channel is logged: http://g2k5.us/6h | The channel rules are here: http://g2k5.us/6g - Read and abide by them"
19:45:58 <kAlug> Gizmokid2005: I don't think many people read the topic. We need it to show in a timed popup like when extensions are installed in Firefox.
19:46:13 <Gizmokid2005> kAlug: and how do you propose that's done?
19:46:14 <Gizmokid2005> :P
19:46:20 <Gizmokid2005> there's nothing you can do from an IRC standpoint for that.
19:46:49 <kAlug> We could modify the webchat...
19:47:02 <Gizmokid2005> no
19:47:03 <Gizmokid2005> you can't.
19:47:16 <Gizmokid2005> the webchat is freenode's applet
19:47:20 <Gizmokid2005> not one PA made.
19:47:23 <kAlug> I though it was FOSS...
19:48:52 <Gizmokid2005> it is GPL v2, but that would require someone to modify the code and then host it themselves rather than using the freenode applet
19:48:58 <Gizmokid2005> which would require John to do all that work
19:49:00 <Gizmokid2005> which won't happen.
19:49:23 <kAlug> Where "all the work" = ?
19:49:54 <Gizmokid2005> means downloading the source, writing in the popup, then compiling/uploading the source again, hosting it somewhere and then replacing the applet
19:50:00 <Gizmokid2005> which requires generating new applet code, etc.
19:50:27 <Gizmokid2005> right now John just uses pre-generated code from Freenode using specific parameters that freenode has already designed to be used in this manner.
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19:51:48 <GizmoBot> MaienM is a MaienM. Wild and untameable, these majestic creatures are known to be lazy and do whatever the fuck they want.
19:52:05 <kAlug> I think we could just change the JS. Or maybe... just put a big warning in the support page.
19:52:31 <Gizmokid2005> You can't just change the js kAlug. The js isn't hosted here...it's freenode's applet.
19:52:43 <Gizmokid2005> also, modifying the support page would require john...
19:53:20 <kAlug> I saw the webpage. It's a Java? backend with a JS frontend.
19:53:54 <Gizmokid2005> kAlug:
19:53:55 <Gizmokid2005> <iframe src="http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=pa_....&channels=portableapps&prompt=1"; width="100%" height="552" scrolling="no" style="border:1px solid black;">Sorry, your browser doesn't seem to support internal frames, or else it's just taking a while to load this. You can also <a href="http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=pa_....&channels=portableapps&prompt=1">access the chat client directly</a>.
19:54:04 <Gizmokid2005> it's not our applet, there's no way to modify it.
19:54:09 <Gizmokid2005> it's an iframe using Freenode modules.
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19:54:25 <Gizmokid2005> quite simply, like I've said 3 times already, we CAN'T do it.
19:55:10 <kAlug> I see the problem... I didn't started my suggestion with "In theory, ..."
19:55:17 <kAlug> pa_8160: Can we help you?
19:55:31 <pa_8160> Why is my Norton AV saying Blackhole toolkit webwite12 when I visit this site
19:55:39 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8160: it's a false positive.
19:55:46 <pa_8160> is this site safe now or infected
19:55:51 <Gizmokid2005> It's because Google erroneously marked our website as bad.
19:55:58 <Gizmokid2005> but even the infection analysis marks it as clean.
19:56:02 <Gizmokid2005> It's clean, and always has been.
19:56:13 <pa_8160> That is what I thought
19:56:19 <pa_8160> i have used it before
19:56:43 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8160: yep. Unfortunately we can't force everybody to remove the FP immediately, but it is safe.
19:57:11 <pa_8160> ok Gizmok, thanks
19:57:28 <pa_8160> so i can safely download then, right
19:57:35 <Gizmokid2005> correct.
19:57:50 <pa_8160> ok, thank you very much, bye
19:58:06 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome
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20:06:18 <vf2nsr> wow looks like Firefox not liking the site
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20:06:55 <kAlug> vf2nsr: Nothing using Google's database is liking it.
20:07:53 <vf2nsr> yuyp did find how to disable the security tho
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20:08:16 <kAlug> And so we have: no malwares hosted or intermediated in the last 90 days, and still we're flaggled.
20:08:49 <kAlug> I enabled Safe Browsing just to view the warning.
20:08:50 <ZachThibeau> well flagged for sure but not flaggled
20:08:56 <vf2nsr> Nope I trust my security over FF I use Vipre
20:09:07 <ZachThibeau> I use linux
20:09:09 <ZachThibeau> :P
20:09:16 <ZachThibeau> that's my security
20:09:36 <vf2nsr> lol
20:09:46 <Gizmokid2005> I use common sense
20:09:48 <Gizmokid2005> that's > all
20:10:04 <ZachThibeau> btw Gizmokid2005 you should update your channel rules post on your forums
20:10:15 <Gizmokid2005> maybe some day :)
20:10:19 <vf2nsr> that the program written by Thomas Paine lol
20:10:24 <kAlug> Don't that belong in PA.c forums?
20:10:25 <ZachThibeau> especially for the link pertaining to the bot's modules lol
20:11:35 <ZachThibeau> btw MaienM your site is still sitting on cpanel, your def suits you just fine xD
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20:13:15 <kAlug> Hey, CrPortable got a link on InfoWorld!
20:16:55 <kAlug> "the CRportable project repackages reasonably stable Chromium builds in the PortableApps format". Yeah, sure. Completely stable. </sarcasm>
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20:24:24 <cobrabk> hello!
20:25:46 <cobrabk> well i think the header just answered it... i was getting a "this is malware" site from both google and the browser protection in both firefox and chrome... assuming you are referring to this! i know this site isn't malware :)
20:26:30 <ZachThibeau> as the topic says for this channel | We are aware of the issue with the site. This is a FALSE warning!
20:26:57 <cobrabk> yea i noticed that :) ugh i wonder how that got reported like that
20:27:09 <Gizmokid2005> cobrabk: if only we knew.
20:27:15 <cobrabk> lol
20:28:01 <cobrabk> i am now going to continue downloading portable apps that are NOT malware lol thanks!
20:32:41 <cobrabk> Google: "0 pages resulted in malicious software"... lol FAIL
20:35:37 <Gizmokid2005> yep. that's the irony.
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20:45:47 <Gizmokid2005> ^^ interesting...that person was very close to me...
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21:16:34 <AlleyKat> is eject.exe used by PA?
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21:17:00 <Gizmokid2005> AlleyKat: what's the path to that eject.exe you're referring to?
21:17:17 <AlleyKat> temp
21:17:36 <Gizmokid2005> X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\App\Bin\eject.exe is one of our executables.
21:17:40 <AlleyKat> http://quick.mixnmojo.com/software/usb-disk-ejector z- its this one
21:18:21 <AlleyKat> <-*
21:18:23 <Gizmokid2005> yes, that is the one that we use.
21:18:29 <AlleyKat> ok
21:19:05 <AlleyKat> fits... I got one running and seem unable to stop it, but I've had problems with ejecting earlier so...
21:19:41 <AlleyKat> I just pulled the drive... all good, doesn't seem like spyware
21:19:56 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, unlikely that it is
21:20:04 <Gizmokid2005> not sure if the platform loads it into temp, but it might
21:20:40 <AlleyKat> I prolly should restart hehe uptime 3 days
21:20:58 <Gizmokid2005> oh man
21:20:59 <Gizmokid2005> 3 days?
21:21:11 <Gizmokid2005> psshhh, most of the time, my desktop uptime is 2-3+ weeks before I reboot.
21:23:07 <AlleyKat> ah, my desktop shouldn't really be running for more than a few hours, but... thats because of my too-high power bill
21:23:53 <AlleyKat> thx for the help! :)
21:24:54 <AlleyKat> uh...
21:25:25 <AlleyKat> wtf, portableapps.com listed as unsafe in my FF??
21:25:35 <vf2nsr> Known issue
21:25:45 <vf2nsr> you can disable the security and get to site
21:25:52 <vf2nsr> Google Screw up
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21:47:38 <Gizmokid2005> or you can just hit the "ignore this warning" in the bottom right of the warning box.
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23:29:13 <vf2nsr> looks like things finally calming down now after the Google debacle?
23:30:10 <JohnTHaller> The warning is still live in Firefox, though: http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=portableapps.com
23:30:11 <vf2nsr> although looks like FF still has not cleared it :(
23:30:23 <JohnTHaller> It can take a full day for them to review it
23:30:26 <vf2nsr> yup was about to say that
23:30:37 <vf2nsr> dang them
23:31:00 <vf2nsr> Lioke anybody else they fast to kill ya but slow to admit error
23:31:20 <JohnTHaller> The site is clean, served no infected files. There was a JavaScript injection for a few hours today. Automated attack, so not an actual site hack. Due to a Drupal vulnerability. It looks like it didn't actually work properly either.
23:32:06 <JohnTHaller> Drupal has been fully patched. Just to be on the safe side, I changed all access, FTP, SSH, MySQL and web admin passwords.
23:32:30 <vf2nsr> yup read that you posted I never doubted PA being clean
23:32:58 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna write up a full report on it for everyone once the warning page is gone. Probably sometime this weekend.
23:33:03 <vf2nsr> I have only ever had one issue and that is with my AV and one program
23:33:28 <vf2nsr> My AV does not like DShutwown at all lol
23:33:48 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, several AVs don't like it due to the APIs it calls within Windows
23:34:12 <vf2nsr> Yup I can not even get it to download lol no need anyway since do not use it
23:35:21 <vf2nsr> I had transferred my PA from stick to a 160gb sirve and when the app store came up decided to install all official apps on it, anyway that was only one that hiccuped me
23:45:05 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: you should really push for them...
23:45:10 <Gizmokid2005> The last time Google visited this site was on 2012-02-03, and suspicious content was never found on this site within the past 90 days.
23:45:15 <Gizmokid2005> especially since that report even says that..
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