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05:01:04 <dboki89> Hi John. Could you please clarify something for me?
05:01:36 <dboki89> Is redistribution (aka sharing of) Skype Portable installers permitted or not?
05:02:33 <JohnTHaller> Hi dboki89. Sharing how?
05:02:42 <dboki89> via Dropbox
05:03:10 <dboki89> officially released (online) installers of Skype Portable
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05:04:07 <JohnTHaller> Why would you want to share it via DropBox?
05:07:53 <dboki89> I'm usually keeping a backup copy of some freeware apps on my Dropbox, since they are only ever available in the latest version (no previous versions).
05:09:04 <JohnTHaller> Of course you can do that for yourself
05:09:27 <dboki89> As of right now, I have several versions of Skype Portable installers. I just thought if it's allowed to offer them *when* somebody needs an older, specific version for whatever reason
05:10:34 <dboki89> or am I to grin evilly with the thought "well, I could help you but you can't have it :p"
05:10:58 <JohnTHaller> I'
05:11:31 <JohnTHaller> I'm not sure about hosting the older Skype installers. Ours I think should be ok. I'd advise against it as outdated versions of Skype have security issues, generally.
05:11:57 <dboki89> not the skype installers, but only Skype Portable ones
05:12:38 <dboki89> I know about security issues, but sometimes somebody just needs an older version for whatever reason, and I've seen in the AppInfo that Shareable is marked as false
05:13:21 <JohnTHaller> No one needs an older version. They 'want' one because they don't like something about the newer interface and don't care about security :-P
05:13:24 <dboki89> so I thought I'd rather ask if it's just about when the app is installed, or that the installers are also not shareable
05:14:05 <JohnTHaller> That has a different meaning that's not used yet.
05:14:11 <dboki89> that's true; I know where you're coming from :)
05:14:23 <dboki89> oh
05:14:41 <dboki89> thank you very much for the response :)
05:15:10 <JohnTHaller> I don't see a problem with it right now. But REALLY warn anyone about the security risks, because they are quite real
05:16:08 <dboki89> okay, I'll make it in big red letters (probably a static html page with direct links and a big red warning)
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14:33:30 <Simeon> hi all
14:35:22 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi Simeon
14:36:30 <Simeon> I wish john would start that wikipedia-like fundraising rally/goal. I think/ hope a lot of us would chip in a bit.
14:38:29 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think John is currently too busy for that (see the list of outdated applications). :(
14:42:13 <Simeon> yes.
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18:00:32 <pa_5211> Hello...is anyone there?
18:00:43 <pa_5211> help
18:00:43 <GizmoBot> pa_5211: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
18:01:23 <pa_5211> I'm trying to install "MindManager" in the portable apps...on my USB drive...can't see the icon in the menu
18:05:50 <pa_5211> help!
18:05:50 <GizmoBot> pa_5211: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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18:27:32 <pa_5211> hello
18:27:53 <pa_5211> Venusaur...are you there?
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18:38:26 <Venusaur> lol
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19:01:58 <kronophskiy> Hi all
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19:08:04 <kAlug> Hi kronophskiy
19:08:48 <kronophskiy> kAlug: 'owdy
19:09:09 <kronophskiy> Trying out the portable Clementine developer preview
19:09:11 <kronophskiy> It rawks
19:09:58 <kAlug> I'm well. Just came back home from a small trip. You?
19:10:23 <kAlug> Thanks. I'm now considering support for portable playlists.
19:10:36 <kronophskiy> Cool cool. I'm cool too
19:10:44 <kronophskiy> I have some suggestions for the platform
19:11:30 <kAlug> I'm not the right person to contact about the Platform, but the channel is logged, so go on...
19:13:10 <kronophskiy> Cool
19:13:38 <kronophskiy> I have a ton of portable apps on my usb, so the menu takes a long time to load everytime I run the .exe - is there any way to speed it up?
19:13:45 <kronophskiy> Perhaps not refresh the app list each time?
19:15:25 <kronophskiy> Or make an option to refresh during program start or not
19:15:41 <kronophskiy> Another thing I'd suggest is to be able to reposition the user picture
19:15:51 <kronophskiy> Have an option to put it under "help"
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19:18:38 <kAlug> kronophskiy: IIRC an upcoming version of the Platform will include caching apps - not that I know how this is going to improve startup speed.
19:18:54 <kronophskiy> IIRC?
19:19:25 <kAlug> http://cygwin.com/acronyms/#IIRC
19:19:41 <kronophskiy> Oh, heh, sorry
19:20:02 <kAlug> As for the user picture, it may be possible once custom theming is implemented.
19:20:44 <kronophskiy> I like the themes already present
19:22:35 <kAlug> I believe it will be possible to customize a builtin theme the way you want to.
19:23:10 <kronophskiy> Very nice
19:23:25 <kronophskiy> It just keeps getting better :)
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19:40:21 <kAlug> Hi Simeon!
19:41:19 <Simeon> hi kAlug
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21:48:52 <Simeon> @kAlug: you still here?
21:51:03 <Simeon> I just visited pa.com and it looks lall different font-wise. Is it the same for you or is it related to my updating my firefox to 10?
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22:00:16 <gluxon> .tell
22:00:16 <GizmoBot> AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'encode' (file "/home/gizmo/phenny/bot.py", line 194, in call)
22:00:30 <gluxon> .tell Simon http://portableapps.com/node/30731
22:00:30 <GizmoBot> gluxon: I'll pass that on when Simon is around.
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22:55:18 <kAlug> .tell Simeon (reported by gluxon) http://portableapps.com/node/30731
22:55:19 <GizmoBot> kAlug: I'll pass that on when Simeon is around.
22:55:48 <gluxon> kAlug: I think I already sent that.
22:56:33 <kAlug> You sent it to Simon.
22:58:10 <kAlug> See the missing 'e'?
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23:04:29 <gluxon> kAlug: Ah, thank you.
23:04:39 <gluxon> Um.. that may be a message in GizmoBot that won't be answered :-/
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23:05:40 <Simon___> Wow... so many Simons...
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23:06:10 <gluxon> kAlug: Was that you?
23:06:16 <gluxon> .. who was gx805? O_o
23:06:26 <kAlug> Yes... and no.
23:06:36 <gluxon> That came from my website....
23:09:40 <kAlug> gluxon: What do you mean?
23:11:56 <gluxon> kAlug: gx*** is the username I use for users of my website chat.
23:12:09 <gluxon> And I just found out... that was Pyromaniac.
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