IRC Log from 2012-02-15
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00:05:07 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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00:13:01 <kAlug> hi vf2nsr
00:17:40 <vf2nsr> hi hi
00:17:50 <vf2nsr> was hoping to catch John here
00:20:26 <kAlug> Hopefully he'll come in a few hours.
00:20:53 <vf2nsr> yup
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00:22:04 <vf2nsr> just a bit I need to hash out why and when the update of Rednotebook will occur
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00:25:39 <vf2nsr> kAlug: seems like there is a miss understanding and I would like to clear it up
00:28:14 <kAlug> vf2nsr: continue.
00:29:06 <vf2nsr> just some things are not clear and not sure why and when he wuill finish rebuilding what is not broke
00:29:56 <vf2nsr> and either I am no t understanding him or he is not understadn ing me
00:30:49 <vf2nsr> but getting very very frustrated t o point where I am about to request to be removed as a developer officially and go back to me maintaining my own without official releases
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00:31:15 <kAlug> vf2nsr: Please! No!
00:31:25 <vf2nsr> im me kalug
00:32:16 <vf2nsr> or pm
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00:44:43 <kAlug> Ahh... a sad day for PortableApps.com has just begun... :((
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00:45:14 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
00:45:25 <vf2nsr> isp booted me argh
00:46:27 <vf2nsr> kAlug: sorry about that was not meant to you isp popped me off
00:47:22 <vf2nsr> kAlug: was not directed at you
00:47:39 <kAlug> I never tought that.
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00:49:58 <sar3th> how so kAlug
00:50:02 <kAlug> Is just that... each developer we lose (for any reason) isn't replaced by new devs. So are end up shrinking.
00:50:55 <sar3th> true
00:53:16 <vf2nsr> kAlug: just I know I was a bit rough in pm
00:54:54 <kAlug> Don't worry. It takes much more for me to understand something as rude.
00:55:06 <kAlug> s/understand/recognize/
00:58:06 <vf2nsr> I will sit and think it over for 24 hours but every day it gets greyer and greyer for me
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00:58:18 <vf2nsr> which is why I wanted to talk to him oh well
00:58:24 <vf2nsr> dinner time bbl
00:58:26 <Gizmokid2005> vf2nsr: that's normal.
00:58:30 <Gizmokid2005> the probably really is with john
00:58:34 <Gizmokid2005> it's sad...but it's true.
00:58:39 <vf2nsr> yup
00:58:44 <Gizmokid2005> he talks big, but executes small
00:58:46 <Gizmokid2005> if at all...
00:59:00 <Gizmokid2005> to be honest, I was really surprised that the PA branded drives actually came to fruition...
00:59:02 <vf2nsr> one breath all is good next i feel as though I am th ebastrd child
00:59:08 <vf2nsr> burgers burning bbl
00:59:13 <Gizmokid2005> kk
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01:11:07 <Peggy> hi
01:11:38 <Peggy> my usb can not be removed after updated the apps
01:12:02 <Peggy> even i re-start the pc
01:12:42 <Peggy> and always show the usb is still working can not be removed
01:13:09 <Gizmokid2005> Peggy: safely remove the drive.
01:13:18 <Peggy> i did
01:13:30 <Peggy> but still not working
01:13:41 <Gizmokid2005> if you safely removed the drive...just unplug it?
01:13:44 <Gizmokid2005> I don't see what the issue is...
01:15:39 <Peggy> i did, I use safely removed, but the window still show the usb still working can not be removed
01:16:04 <Gizmokid2005> there's a few ways around it... 1) you can shut down your pc, then remove the drive.
01:16:14 <Gizmokid2005> 2) you can install unlocker and see what is still using the drive
01:16:17 <Gizmokid2005> 3) you can just remove it.
01:16:39 <Gizmokid2005> #3 is usually warned against unless you're sure everything is not in use
01:16:49 <Gizmokid2005> my best guess? Windows is likely indexing the files on the drive..
01:17:00 <sar3th> or your av is doing something nasty
01:17:03 <Peggy> unlocker?
01:17:06 <Gizmokid2005> yes.
01:17:15 <Gizmokid2005> .g Unlockers
01:17:16 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: http://www.thephoneunlockers.com/
01:17:19 <Gizmokid2005> whopps
01:17:21 <Gizmokid2005> .g Unlocker
01:17:22 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: http://www.filehippo.com/download_unlocker/
01:17:26 <Gizmokid2005> ^^ that one.
01:17:43 <Peggy> got it
01:17:48 <Peggy> thanks
01:17:59 <Peggy> for your assistance
01:18:06 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome
01:18:06 <sar3th> make sure you don't accidentally install the additional software that comes with it
01:18:08 <sar3th> i.e. ads
01:18:35 <Peggy> ok
01:19:22 <Peggy> if there is any problem, i will let you know :P
01:19:40 <Peggy> 88
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01:20:31 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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01:28:35 <vf2nsr> <<<<afk for 10
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01:33:20 <vf2nsr> back
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01:33:54 <sar3th> wb
01:34:07 <vf2nsr> ty
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01:52:21 <kAlug> hey JohnTHaller
01:52:25 <JohnTHaller> hola kal
01:52:26 <JohnTHaller> kAlug:
01:52:40 <kAlug> May I PM you?
01:52:44 <JohnTHaller> Sure
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02:00:44 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: Got a minute for a PM?
02:01:02 <vf2nsr> give me 5 minutes please
02:01:07 <JohnTHaller> sure
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02:27:49 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
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02:35:04 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
02:35:19 <GordCaswell> wb vf2nsr
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02:41:24 <vf2nsr> ty
02:41:34 <vf2nsr> sorry in back ground trying to refresh brain
02:41:51 <vf2nsr> or should I say windows syntax
02:42:09 <GordCaswell> no worries. i'm updating the 24 apps that john j=pushed since i last updated...about a day and half ago...lol
02:44:11 <vf2nsr> did tha tlast night got 12 and as soon as was through 5 more showed up lol
02:44:17 <vf2nsr> ok HELP
02:44:23 <GordCaswell> ?
02:44:39 <vf2nsr> what is windows syntax to point to appdata dir
02:44:54 <vf2nsr> x://something or another
02:45:41 <GordCaswell> there's the environment variable..
02:45:54 <vf2nsr> yes but I need windows version of it not PAL
02:46:10 <vf2nsr> do not remember the syntax fo rit
02:46:14 <GordCaswell> It is windows version: %AppData%
02:46:20 <GordCaswell> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable#Examples_from_Microsoft_Windows
02:46:35 <vf2nsr> I mean to point it to a folder not the appdata
02:46:46 <vf2nsr> like gordon/data folder
02:47:00 <GordCaswell> to redirect it, you mean?
02:47:04 <vf2nsr> yes
02:49:38 <GordCaswell> using nsis?
02:50:48 <vf2nsr> python
02:51:03 <vf2nsr> can I pm you somethin
02:51:07 <GordCaswell> sure
02:57:31 <JohnTHaller> sorry you have more to update: http://portableapps.com/news/2012-02-14_-_jportable_6_update_31_released
02:58:26 <GordCaswell> heh. no worries. I'm impressed, to be honest
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03:05:36 <kAlug> vf2nsr: Solved the redirection thing?
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03:12:03 <vf2nsr> working on it
03:13:17 <vf2nsr> brb need more Diet Dew
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03:15:57 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: Sort of spam? http://portableapps.com/node/30937#comment-190443
03:17:13 <JohnTHaller> don't think so
03:21:12 <JohnTHaller> and google chrome dev was updated for folks who follow that
03:23:03 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: you in ear shot?
03:23:14 <JohnTHaller> present
03:23:26 <vf2nsr> ok can I -pm you
03:24:34 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: This is why I mentioned "sort of". The comment doesn't make many sense.
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03:28:29 <JohnTHaller> stepping away for a bit
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03:33:16 <vf2nsr> Anyone running Rednotebook?
03:33:25 <vf2nsr> Need a piece of info
03:33:48 <GordCaswell> what do you need?
03:34:09 <vf2nsr> in the 1.2 build need to figure where I set it to save
03:34:23 <vf2nsr> not sure if it was .rednotebook or usersettings
03:34:30 <vf2nsr> messed up my copy lol
03:34:37 <GordCaswell> hang on, i'll check
03:34:40 <vf2nsr> ok
03:34:48 <vf2nsr> got it on a stick here some where
03:34:53 <vf2nsr> guess b etter label soon
03:36:47 <GordCaswell> ok, you've got it saving to usersettings, except for the journals
03:37:01 <vf2nsr> where are journals going?
03:37:06 <GordCaswell> Those save to Data/.rednotebook/data
03:37:10 <vf2nsr> usersettings/data?
03:37:48 <vf2nsr> ok that was because of earlier messup
03:38:04 <vf2nsr> in usersetting folder is there a data folder
03:38:07 <GordCaswell> so you have it saving correctly to usersettings/data now?
03:38:15 <vf2nsr> yes
03:38:16 <GordCaswell> yep
03:38:29 <vf2nsr> ok i got it to usersettings now
03:38:45 <vf2nsr> but not sure what that does to the .rednotebook folder from before
03:38:52 <GordCaswell> k, so you need a PortableApps.comInstallerCustom.nsh
03:38:57 <vf2nsr> let me explain in th eim
03:39:01 <GordCaswell> I can write it up if you'd like
03:39:06 <vf2nsr> hang sec
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04:41:47 <JohnTHaller|away> vf2nsr: If you can have 1.3 save to the same place as 1.2 then we don't need to worry about upgrades.
04:42:35 <vf2nsr> nope got it all figured out John
04:42:40 <JohnTHaller|away> cool
04:42:50 <vf2nsr> working on compacting then will upload it
04:42:52 <vf2nsr> to sf
04:43:03 <JohnTHaller|away> Does RedNotebook have issues compacted?
04:43:15 <vf2nsr> never triued it before
04:43:19 <vf2nsr> so though tmight?
04:43:28 <JohnTHaller|away> Can't recall offhand
04:43:29 <vf2nsr> dont have to though if you wan t it faster
04:43:37 <vf2nsr> I never tried to compact it
04:43:46 <JohnTHaller|away> it can be compacted
04:44:10 <vf2nsr> but with Gords help I think we have all bases covered no matter what version a users upgrades from
04:44:17 <JohnTHaller|away> nice :)
04:44:19 <vf2nsr> trying now
04:44:32 <vf2nsr> including the custom installer
04:44:36 <vf2nsr> rewrite lol
04:44:41 <GordCaswell> just verify my additions to PortableApps.comInstallerCustom.nsh, John
04:45:00 <vf2nsr> so you want me to try the compact or not?
04:45:06 <JohnTHaller|away> GordCaswell: Got System Explorer published, thanks
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04:45:13 <GordCaswell> you're welcome.
04:46:07 <GordCaswell> I'm testing some custom code for making GIMP test's console window get hidden and then closed automagically :)
04:46:28 <GordCaswell> Too tired to install 2.6.12 in VM tonight, though. I'm doing that tomorrow morning
04:46:33 <JohnTHaller> Ah. Cool if you can do it. If not, it's a Dev version, so it's not a huge deal
04:46:39 <vf2nsr> tell ya one thing...glsd I had s 2l bottle of diet dew and Gord tonight
04:46:46 <GordCaswell> my thoughts exactly.
04:47:04 <JohnTHaller> Ok, just lemme know. I gotta polish off LibreOffice 3.5.0 in the AM anyway and then get the 3 mozilla 2nd profile addons into the app store.
04:48:10 <JohnTHaller> Then gotta update some of these bits: http://portableapps.com/node/28606 Thinking the miscategorizations I may just put a lil custom code in the platform to fix rather than bug users with re-releases.
04:49:07 <GordCaswell> and fix them once we need to update the apps? Makes sense to me
04:49:16 <vf2nsr> OK COmpacting saves 16555kb
04:49:21 <vf2nsr> and appears to wrok
04:49:30 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, exactly. Since nothing but the platform uses them anyway and 10.0.2 is coming out in a day or two with bug fixes anyway.
04:49:45 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: Cool. My notes said appcompacting was ifne
04:49:49 <JohnTHaller> fine, even
04:50:00 <GordCaswell> woohoo...i figured that was probably the reason you were pushing all the app updates
04:50:30 <vf2nsr> I change intenal packversion so it will install over the one you have john since apparently a few others grabbed it
04:50:33 <JohnTHaller> It's more for the 11.0 Beta that will be a few days later since I'm working on steamlining installs and updates to avoid the license screens for each app.
04:50:38 <vf2nsr> from my sf page
04:50:46 <JohnTHaller> Ah ok. That works, vf2nsr
04:50:58 <GordCaswell> nice
04:51:05 <vf2nsr> creating installer now and will upload it in moment or two
04:51:22 <vf2nsr> btw gord your code seemed to have worked
04:51:36 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna push it out in the AM. I'm crashing now :(
04:51:42 <GordCaswell> great, glad i've still got a few brain cells working
04:52:01 <JohnTHaller> So please email it to me. If you and Gord are both happy with it, I won't need to give it a thorough once-over when I wake up :)
04:52:04 <vf2nsr> want me to email the link John
04:52:09 <JohnTHaller> please
04:52:12 <vf2nsr> ok cools
04:52:14 <vf2nsr> will do
04:52:16 <vf2nsr> ty
04:52:16 <JohnTHaller> I'll push it out first thing.
04:52:27 <vf2nsr> ok
04:52:38 <vf2nsr> Gord you going to be on for a bit?
04:52:47 <GordCaswell> for a little longer
04:53:08 <vf2nsr> ok will upload it and let you double check?
04:53:10 <JohnTHaller> Thanks a lot for getting it done. It was bugging me :) Now we just got the last couple things now that Private Browsing works again. Still waiting on Geany from OliverK though
04:53:23 <vf2nsr> did you eget his message
04:53:27 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller:
04:53:37 <vf2nsr> about the weekend
04:53:54 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I did. Hopefully he can get it done so we can be 100% up to date
04:54:01 <vf2nsr> ok
04:54:14 <GordCaswell> if he doesn't get it in the next week or so, i'll look at updating it. No guarantees, though. lots of custom stuff happening in that launcher.
04:54:25 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: brb need to close a few thing to upload
04:54:31 <GordCaswell> Of course, now that i've slogged through GIMP, it should be easier :)
04:54:34 <GordCaswell> k
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05:23:04 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: ISP glitch uploading i tnow
05:23:14 <vf2nsr> it now
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05:25:14 <vpupkin> hello all
05:25:33 <GordCaswell> hello vpupkin. Can we help you with something?
05:26:27 <vpupkin> does anyone have a problem with portable Skype not saving language setting? I just instanned it, everything went smooth, but every time I start it, it choose default system language (russian) instead of english.
05:26:59 <vpupkin> i tried to change language in menu and in options. nothing helps.
05:28:40 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: take a look at pm please
05:30:07 <vf2nsr> where did you install it to?
05:30:53 <vpupkin> i did not pick the path. installed it via PortableApps.com Platform
05:31:24 <vpupkin> so it just let me accept license and installed silently
05:31:59 <GordCaswell> See the Skype Portable app page. this issue is known: "Note that Skype Portable will use the language setting of the local PC on each launch and not save changes. This is due to a bug in Skype itself."
05:32:05 <vpupkin> looks like it's a problem with Skype. https://jira.skype.com/browse/SCW-2112
05:32:12 <GordCaswell> http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/skype_portable
05:32:26 <vpupkin> thank you. i missed it somehow...
05:32:34 <GordCaswell> no problem
05:33:40 <vpupkin> well, good by everyone. :)
05:33:49 <vpupkin> *good bye
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05:35:42 <vf2nsr> wow just learned something
05:35:50 <vf2nsr> I forgot my skype password lol
05:41:50 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: nice job on system explorer
05:41:58 <GordCaswell> Thanks
05:42:12 <GordCaswell> vf2nsr: I made amistake. thanks for letting me test. fixing now
05:42:19 <vf2nsr> oh no
05:42:24 <vf2nsr> lol
05:42:34 <vf2nsr> I checked it what did I miss?
05:42:41 <GordCaswell> like i said earlier, i'm kinda tired.
05:43:02 <vf2nsr> ok but it seemed to function?
05:43:09 <GordCaswell> the commands were in two if-loops: if .rednotebook exists AND usersettings doesn't.
05:43:21 <GordCaswell> since both do, the extra commands i added are ignored
05:43:23 <vf2nsr> ah
05:44:05 <GordCaswell> they still need to be there, in the event someone upgrades from an older version, but they also need to be outside that loop
05:44:24 <vf2nsr> ok
05:44:33 <vf2nsr> sorry I dragged you into th emess
05:44:48 <GordCaswell> that's basic programming logic ;)
05:44:52 <GordCaswell> i don't mind
05:44:52 <vf2nsr> OK I will go remove that one from sf
05:45:30 <GordCaswell> please. i'm verifying this fixes the issue right now
05:46:03 <vf2nsr> ok
05:46:05 <vf2nsr> ty
05:47:55 <vf2nsr> yup i see that now
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08:45:49 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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09:25:04 <Dirtsa|OFF> hi @all, when do you offer gimp version 2.6.12?
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10:29:15 <Dirtsa> > hi @all, when do you offer gimp version 2.6.12?
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13:12:14 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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13:40:55 <pa_5672> help
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13:42:00 <sar3th> hi pa_5672, what seems to be the problem?
13:43:00 <pa_5672> I get an error when trying to use Gramps Portable. Failed Loading View/The view Graph View did not load. See Help Menu, Plugin Manager for more info./
13:44:34 <pa_5672> Fail graphview.py Visible GraphViz (http://www.graphviz.org) is required for this view to work
13:45:07 <pa_5672> Can the portable app be fixed to include whatever it needs?
13:46:28 <pa_5672> I don't see a support forum for Gramps like there is for most portableapps.
13:46:44 <sar3th> to be honest, i never used gramps...a fresh install seems to work just fine
13:47:09 <pa_5672> No, I tried a fresh install and had the same problem.
13:47:18 <sar3th> ah okay, so you already did that
13:47:31 <sar3th> well, you can post to the "Other Apps" support forum here: http://portableapps.com/forums/support/other_apps
13:47:50 <sar3th> that would be the right place to report your issues so that they will be fixed :)
13:53:40 <pa_5672> OK I will try to find it there
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14:14:18 <pa_5672> I found only one thing there that might be relevant so posted my problem there. Hopefully, someone might see it and provide a solution
14:15:40 <sar3th> probably someone will :)
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14:25:39 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
14:27:02 <GordCaswell> Dirtsa|OFF: We'll be releasing GIMP 2.6.12 in the next day or two. We've added support for Ghostscript Portable, otherwise it would've been released already.
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16:39:33 <mahoplus> Hallo, how can I add a Programm like bginfo with parameters?
16:41:42 <Dirtsa> thx for answer and bye :)
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16:49:16 <vf2nsr> bginfo is that hte Microsoft program? the one for custom desktops?
16:49:32 <vf2nsr> dang too slow lol
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17:22:53 <pa_2054> Hi, does anybody know where I can get help with 'Juice' portable. I got problems importing opml files
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17:25:17 <GordCaswell> pa_2054: what's the problem you're having?
17:26:14 <TPFC-SYSTEM> BTW, Juice's official support page is here: http://juicereceiver.sourceforge.net/support/index.php
17:26:53 <pa_2054> It does not import the file. And then get a error msg when exiting the prgr + some error code in a logfile
17:27:32 <GordCaswell> what does the error message say?
17:27:59 <pa_2054> do you think sourceforge give support for portable?
17:28:59 <pa_2054> Traceback (most recent call last): File "iPodderGui.pyc", line 578, in OnMenuOpmlImport File "ipodder\feeds.pyc", line 567, in absorb_from_opml_file File "ipodder\feeds.pyc", line 556, in absorb_from_opml File "ipodder\feeds.pyc", line 552, in traverse File "ipodder\feeds.pyc", line 544, in traverse File "ipodder\outlines.pyc", line 165, in __getattr__ AttributeError: title
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17:31:06 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
17:32:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> pa_2054: Bugs are rarely specific to PortableApps.com versions of the apps.
17:32:59 <TPFC-SYSTEM> PA.c applications are usually just slightly modified.
17:33:24 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That's why Juice developers should be more able to help you.
17:33:34 <pa_2054> OK...will try sourceforge. Thanx
17:33:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> You're welcome. :)
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17:39:38 <GordCaswell> thanks TPFC-SYSTEM
17:39:44 <GordCaswell> i was trying to find their support forum
17:40:00 <GordCaswell> finally found it, at their SF project page
17:40:33 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I didn't even know that they have a forum...
17:41:46 <GordCaswell> it's just the default help forum on SF, but it looks to be active
17:43:56 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Since you thanked me, I thought I had somehow helped you to find the forum.
17:44:05 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It would have been quite ironic. :D
17:50:50 <GordCaswell> heh. no, i meant for helping the user
17:55:34 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: thanks again
17:55:44 <GordCaswell> you're welcome
17:58:01 <vf2nsr> looks like my av freaks out when I download exe files that have gtk in them just downloaded geany and killed me
17:58:10 <vf2nsr> got to report this one
17:58:17 <GordCaswell> no kidding
17:58:52 <vf2nsr> yup think it is because of the number of small files in it and it is trying to scan
17:59:10 <GordCaswell> yeah, that's often the case.
17:59:58 <vf2nsr> weird though because it scanned them on download but as soon as I touch them it rescans
18:05:14 <GordCaswell> it shouldn't if it's already scanned them...what a weird way for an av to be set up
18:07:34 <vf2nsr> yup going to contact them I thinkit quick scans on download but does a full scan on access
18:09:55 <GordCaswell> could be a setting you can change to fix that
18:11:21 <vf2nsr> yup need to dig into it I guess
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18:35:14 <vf2nsr> bbiab
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19:30:07 <vf2nsr> wb
19:30:25 <GordCaswell> ty. darn computer went to sleep while i was away from it
19:31:03 <vf2nsr> ah ok
19:31:15 <vf2nsr> got a rhetorical question for you
19:31:23 <vf2nsr> how fast is fast?
19:32:19 <GordCaswell> eh? you'd have to base it on some sort of measurement to give a determination. is that about the rednotebook freezing thread?
19:32:38 <vf2nsr> yes
19:32:48 <vf2nsr> lol
19:32:55 <Gizmokid2005> fast is subjective.
19:33:06 <GordCaswell> indeed it is
19:33:14 <vf2nsr> which is the point I am trying to make
19:33:20 <vf2nsr> and ahve been lol
19:33:25 <Gizmokid2005> Many people would consider the computer I"m on currently, which is a Core 2 duo w/3GB ram
19:33:53 <Gizmokid2005> but it's slow as crap. Compare it to my 6-core machine at home with 16GB ram..
19:33:59 <Gizmokid2005> THAT is what I would consider fast...
19:34:14 <vf2nsr> true true
19:36:56 <Gizmokid2005> what's the thread you're referring to?
19:37:28 <vf2nsr> http://portableapps.com/node/29445
19:37:50 <vf2nsr> amongst others
19:38:43 <vf2nsr> I mean geez it is a one time instanc eon a first install
19:39:34 <GordCaswell> if there's a way to speed it up, great. if not, it's no big deal, as far as i'm concerned. a number of apps have slower first run speeds
19:39:35 <Gizmokid2005> yeah...personally I wouldn't try to do it...the creation of that is minimal impact...
19:40:07 <vf2nsr> I agree with both of you
19:40:18 <vf2nsr> but apparently other do not?
19:41:07 <vf2nsr> guess will just let it go I mean we fixed a plethora of other issue
19:41:31 <vf2nsr> and out of over 50,000 downloads of last release only a few complaints
19:41:51 <GordCaswell> exactly, nothing at all to worry about
19:42:32 <vf2nsr> and not so sure we need a custom code to "fix" it
19:43:52 <GordCaswell> well, if there's a way to sooth those few complainers, and it's not that hard to do, then there's no harm in adding custom code
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20:48:02 <GordCaswell> Gah!!! stay ghosted, already!!!
20:51:08 <vf2nsr> lol
21:06:27 <vf2nsr> bbl
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21:15:54 <pa_8274> help
21:15:54 <GizmoBot> pa_8274: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
21:17:15 <pa_8274> I need help....I put a program into portable apps menu and the icon image for it doesnt show. Can you help?
21:17:48 <GordCaswell> where did you put it?
21:17:59 <GordCaswell> the exact path, please
21:19:38 <pa_8274> I put it into /portableapps.com folder like every other program I put on
21:20:47 <GordCaswell> ok, no programs should be put in that folder. that's for the interals of the portableapps.com platform. move your program(s) to the PortableApps folder
21:21:37 <pa_8274> sorry thats what I should have said....it is in the portableapps folder
21:22:15 <GordCaswell> so NOT in the one labeled portableapps.com?
21:22:28 <pa_8274> I put six other programs in there and no problem with icon images but one
21:22:35 <pa_8274> no
21:23:03 <GordCaswell> is the program's exe in the root. So for example, is it X:\PortableApps\ExampleProgram\Example.exe ?
21:23:32 <GordCaswell> or is it something like X:\PortableApps\ExampleProgram\SubFolder\Example.exe ?
21:23:47 <pa_8274> Yes, I opened the program and it works just fine. just no icon image
21:24:53 <pa_8274> Its, G:\portableapps\Program\Program.exe
21:25:30 <GordCaswell> Ok, and does it show up in your platform? It just doesn't have an icon, right?
21:26:34 <pa_8274> right
21:26:51 <pa_8274> is there a way i can just make one
21:27:24 <GordCaswell> Ok, try following the instructions here to make an appinfo.ini file for your program: http://portableapps.com/node/21757
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21:28:00 <GordCaswell> this, in particular: http://portableapps.com/node/20906#comment-129051
21:28:47 <pa_8274> Alright
21:41:07 <pa_8274> cool thanks man
21:41:28 <GordCaswell> you're welcome
21:43:13 <pa_8274> Ya learn something new every day.......
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22:34:59 <sar3th> thanks for pointing to it GordCaswell
22:35:31 <GordCaswell> easier than typing it all out again. it really should be stickied or something
22:36:03 <sar3th> :)
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22:39:27 <sar3th> it's what i had in mind originally
22:39:38 <sar3th> we were going to build a wiki with a lot of support-related things
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22:41:57 <GordCaswell> not a bad idea
22:42:07 <pa_7741> hi!
22:42:28 <sar3th> hi pa_7741, how can we help you today?
22:42:29 <pa_7741> ΓΌ
22:42:43 <pa_7741> I downloaded
22:42:49 <pa_7741> the portable apps platform.
22:42:58 <pa_7741> but i could not see some portable app
22:43:06 <pa_7741> apps like jdonloader
22:43:13 <pa_7741> cpu-z
22:43:19 <pa_7741> which are already portable
22:43:35 <sar3th> pa_7741: the plattform assumes that the apps are in the so-called PAF
22:43:54 <sar3th> see http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps
22:43:58 <pa_7741> but it would be nice to use them with portableapps.com platform because it updates them :)
22:44:17 <pa_7741> i am looking to link please wait
22:44:52 <sar3th> pa_7741: the portableapps platform only updates official portableapps
22:45:23 <pa_7741> i understand what you mean. the folder name should be same with executable file name. right?
22:46:04 <sar3th> i don't think that's necessary, but the documentation is not clear about that
22:46:13 <pa_7741> ops! :(
22:46:22 <pa_7741> anyway i will try it...
22:47:02 <pa_7741> sar3th but it would be nice to see the already portable apps on the portableApps.com platform. because the update is importanet.
22:47:42 <sar3th> what exactly do you mean? the platform will only update apps that it knows, i.e. that are official ones
22:47:55 <sar3th> other apps will appear in the list but not maintained by it
22:48:19 <sar3th> meaning you will just get another list entry you can use to launch your app, but the updater will not detect it
22:48:48 <pa_7741> sar3th yes . i know. i just say it would be nice if we can see the cpu-z, jdownloader on the list. just because the update feature...
22:49:02 <pa_7741> sar3th and last question if you have time?
22:49:48 <pa_7741> sar3th i use windows 64 bit. my portable apps are 64 bit or 32?
22:50:13 <sar3th> pa_7741: i understand your wish to keep it updated, but it won't work :( the updater is a component that runs independantly of the menu
22:50:19 <GordCaswell> pa_7741: if you want to see those applications added to the PortableApps.com Directory, please make a request: http://portableapps.com/node/4507
22:51:05 <sar3th> and of course, i do have time. to answer your question, as far as i know, all apps are 32 bit applications. they will however run on windows 64 bit editions and there shouldn't be any problems related to that
22:53:27 <pa_7741> sar3th ok thank you :)
22:53:54 <sar3th> GordCaswell just pointed out that some apps come with both, 32 bit and 64 bit executables
22:56:30 <pa_7741> sar3th portableApps.com platform downloads both 32 bit and 64 bit? and when i run any app it checks if the system is 32 or 64?
22:57:26 <sar3th> good question; i think the updater downloads the normal installation package and executes that
22:57:43 <sar3th> what happens then is up to the specific app. GordCaswell, do you know about the details?
22:58:06 <pa_7741> sar3th normal installation package is 32 or 64 ? :D
22:58:23 <GordCaswell> Yes, some applications are packaged by us including both 32 and 64 bit executables. Most, however, are 32bit
22:58:49 <pa_7741> ok that better...
22:58:50 <sar3th> the package itself is a 32-bit exe, but it could contain both, 32 and 64 bit executables
22:59:25 <pa_7741> GordCaswell sar3th i understand . thank you :)
22:59:39 <sar3th> you're welcome :)
23:01:20 <pa_7741> sar3th last think ! ...
23:01:35 <pa_7741> why libreoffice needs java?
23:02:44 <sar3th> "Additional functionality including the Base database and document creation wizards is enabled by installing the jPortable portable Java runtime environment."
23:03:40 <pa_7741> sar3th ok you are perfect! :)
23:03:50 <sar3th> thanks
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