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00:57:22 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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00:57:32 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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02:11:22 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
02:23:12 <Aerok> vf2nsr: Hello. Did you and John solved the issues with RedNotebook?
02:26:03 <vf2nsr> think so
02:26:07 <vf2nsr> at least for now
02:26:24 <vf2nsr> we did get it release
02:26:34 <vf2nsr> we can only hope all stays good
02:27:51 <Aerok> Good.
02:32:20 <vf2nsr> Did get Gord to help me with some custom coding
02:32:29 <vf2nsr> which hopefully resolves osme issues
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02:48:10 <vf2nsr> bbiab
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03:50:25 <vf2nsr> I see spammers are at it again
04:03:36 <vf2nsr> Wow Chris was fast
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08:26:03 <Evan_> hello?
08:26:46 <Evan_> is anybody there? i need help in making a portable app
08:28:10 <Evan_> ohk, lets try and get someone's attension
08:29:01 <Evan_> gizmokid2005 alleykat mir muhis91 ronjn venusaur z3us zarggg
08:30:22 <ronjn> not cool -.-
08:31:00 <Evan_> can you help me? sorry,
08:31:26 <ronjn> have you checked http://portableapps.com/development ?
08:31:56 <ronjn> or http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_launcher
08:32:03 <Evan_> i have the luancher, but after than i dont know what to do, i run it and no file shows up, i basically dont know where to start
08:32:35 <Evan_> when i open the luacher, the setup.exe doesnt show
08:32:45 <ronjn> nah, sry..can't help you there
08:32:49 <Evan_> and i cant find a step by step guide
08:32:54 <ronjn> http://portableapps.com/forums/development/portable_app_development
08:32:56 <ronjn> ^^
08:33:06 <ronjn> Creating A Portable App: A Guerilla Field Guide
08:34:18 <Evan_> ohk thanks., if i need anything ill ask again
08:45:30 <Evan_> ronjn , my setup isnt a nsis file, what do i do?
09:09:32 <Evan_> this support lacks
09:09:58 <Evan_> but thanks for linking me to that page, but i dont think it can help me...
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09:38:06 <pa_6011> hello!
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11:19:53 <pa_8740> hi!
11:21:14 <pa_8740> is there somebody can help me please?
11:38:58 <Mir> ask away
11:39:53 <pa_8740> ?
11:40:03 <Mir> protip: ask the question and then lurk. when it looks like its active agian it might be wise to ask agian.
11:40:20 <pa_8740> ok.
11:40:24 <Mir> i happen to be awake studying for a test and because i cant sleep
11:40:31 <Mir> so whats the question pa
11:40:55 <pa_8740> portable apps works
11:41:06 <pa_8740> slower than if i would installed ?
11:41:16 <Mir> umm
11:41:24 <Mir> it should not be slower
11:41:40 <pa_8740> should?
11:41:43 <Mir> than an install of a normal unportablized package
11:41:53 <Mir> it depends on your media
11:41:58 <pa_8740> hmm ...
11:42:29 <Mir> if i am using a media card things will be slow because its old and slow compaired with a class 10 SD micro
11:43:09 <Mir> another example is sony's memory sticks
11:43:11 <pa_8740> hmm ok.
11:43:18 <pa_8740> i understand ..
11:43:40 <Mir> Memorystick is old and a bit slower than the new generation Memorystick Pro Duo HG
11:44:02 <Mir> its like compairing a Audio CD and a DVD
11:44:20 <pa_8740> hmm yes.
11:44:24 <pa_8740> and what about wine? all the stable apps on portableApps platform are supporting by wine too ? or just portableApps platform supports wine?
11:44:27 <Mir> the read rate is faster on a DVD even though the speed number is less
11:44:38 <Mir> not all the aps are stable in wine
11:44:48 <Mir> i can answer that for sure
11:44:56 <Mir> BUT
11:45:16 <Mir> the apps that dont work in wine dont work in a normal unportable install
11:45:24 <Mir> so it program related
11:45:34 <pa_8740> hmm yes.
11:45:53 <pa_8740> Mir can somebody make (or hade made) a portable WINE ?
11:46:21 <pa_8740> Mir so we can open also portableApp Platform on other computers.
11:46:56 <Mir> wine is not portable
11:47:05 <Mir> wine is linux only
11:47:14 <Mir> it has to be localy installed
11:47:26 <pa_8740> Mir but can be. right? there are many portable apps for linux. examples: http://portablelinuxapps.org/
11:47:31 <Mir> in specific directories
11:47:43 <Mir> O.o
11:47:46 <Mir> note
11:48:14 <Mir> old Dos apps could be portable like for example the C compiler from microsoft or Nesticle
11:48:42 <Mir> you can move the executable binaries around of some programs in linux
11:48:45 <Mir> BUT
11:49:10 <Mir> if the executable binary needs to link to several system files it ceases to become portable
11:49:16 <Mir> wine is one of those
11:49:22 <Mir> so is virtualbox
11:50:14 <pa_8740> Mir: so impossible to make wine portable? :(
11:50:45 <Mir> and acetone2iso
11:50:54 <Mir> yes and no
11:51:03 <Mir> yes its increadably difficult
11:51:27 <pa_8740> Mir: hmm. now i understand better.
11:51:30 <Mir> it may be possible but not financialy and/or not worth the time
11:52:03 <Mir> also its updated so frequently that one version may work portably but another newer one might not
11:52:30 <Mir> wine emulates the windows DLL's and requires the emulation of a C;/ directory
11:53:40 <pa_8740> Mir: On windows when i start a program from portableApp platform it checks first my system if it is 32 bit or 64 bit, and than starts it? or it installs the apps directly on 32 or 64 bit?
11:54:27 <Mir> that i dont know
11:54:49 <pa_8740> Mir: ok.
11:54:58 <pa_8740> Mir: thank you so much for anwers :)
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12:30:04 <sar3th> 09:09:32 <Evan_> this support lacks
12:30:07 <sar3th> lold
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19:24:51 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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19:50:58 <vf2nsr> at what point or what is best criteria in determing if a devlopmental release has been abandoned by the developer?
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19:55:55 <Gizmokid2005> vf2nsr: by asking them.
19:56:17 <Gizmokid2005> typically if it's been abonded more than 3-6 months, it's safe to take
19:57:31 <vf2nsr> OK I asked will give a week for response
19:57:46 <vf2nsr> no actual input from developer since last July
19:58:14 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, if you don't get a response in ~1 week
19:58:17 <Gizmokid2005> it's safe to take
19:58:23 <vf2nsr> been some update requests and I have done so but do not want to step on toes
19:58:35 <vf2nsr> so am holdin goff releasing it
19:58:37 <vf2nsr> ty
19:58:45 <vf2nsr> just wanted confirmation
19:59:53 <vf2nsr> appreciate your help Gizmokid2005
19:59:59 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome
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21:07:32 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
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21:31:39 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
21:37:14 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: looks like you been busy today :)
21:37:22 <GordCaswell> yup.
21:37:41 <vf2nsr> I discovered a few things to day as well
21:37:50 <vf2nsr> but not as busy as you
21:38:18 <vf2nsr> got a minute for a pm?
21:38:53 <GordCaswell> yeah, go ahead.
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23:38:28 <pa_2783> is there a way to not have the portable apps platform hide every time you click on an app or folder?
23:39:55 <pa_2783> help!
23:39:55 <GizmoBot> pa_2783: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
23:40:20 <pa_2783> thanks, please disregard the "help!"
23:40:58 <pa_2783> (in case it didn't post already) is there a way to not have the portable apps platform hide every time you click on an app or folder?
23:43:20 <sar3th> sorry, i don't know
23:44:23 <sar3th> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#advanced
23:44:27 <sar3th> actually, pa_2783
23:44:42 <sar3th> "Remain Visible" is what i think you want to have :)
23:52:25 <pa_2783> Thanks for that! At first it did not work, but it helps to put the new line under the correct category. :)
23:54:01 <pa_2783> Thanks, sar3th for your quick response!
23:54:54 <vf2nsr> well done sar3th
23:56:36 <pa_2783> Take care everyone. Great application! Bye.
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