IRC Log from 2012-02-19

00:00:48 <pa_5513> all that is left in the SD card now is a yellow folder labbeled portable apps with lots of the actual app in
00:01:16 <Simeon> is there a folder called "portableapps.com" inside the portableapps folder?
00:02:33 <pa_5513> no there isnt
00:03:56 <Simeon> how many apps do you have there?
00:04:17 <pa_5513> so now do i download portable apps.com platform 10.0?
00:04:56 <pa_5513> theres 14 apps, 15 including the firefox one
00:05:44 <pa_5513> should i format the sd card perhaps?
00:06:31 <Simeon> you could check it for errors
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00:06:56 <Simeon> and download the platform from http://portableapps.com/download
00:11:41 <pa_5513> just running a disk check
00:12:28 <pa_5513> thanks so much for this. so after i install the platform 10, do i save it or run it?
00:12:47 <Simeon> save it to the desktop and then run it.
00:13:30 <Simeon> do you have anything valuable on the SD-card? Save it to somplace safe just in case...
00:15:43 <pa_5513> theres nothign on it now - so i save it to my desktop - not the SD card??
00:16:35 <Simeon> yes. its better not to run the installers from the same medium/stick/card they will be installed to. It is possible but some slower sticks might get a hickup.
00:17:34 <pa_5513> ah. maybe thats been the problem then
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00:20:38 <Simeon> maybe. whats the size of the drive? 4 gb?
00:21:28 <pa_5513> 32gb
00:21:46 <Simeon> larger drives are usually slower than smaller ones.
00:22:15 <Simeon> did you install the menu?
00:22:39 <pa_5513> i am just installing the platform 10 now...is that right?
00:23:07 <Simeon> yes
00:24:13 <pa_5513> ok just opened it ... shall i installt to the sd card now
00:24:40 <Simeon> yes. That would be D:/ in your case
00:24:57 <Simeon> stupid smiley...I meant D : /
00:24:59 <Simeon> :)
00:26:51 <pa_5513> hehe, it worked fine here. its just doing the disk check...its taking a wee while im afraiid
00:28:19 <pa_5513> i have copied all the actual app folders into my documents, so hopefully i wont need to reinstall all 14 of them
00:28:32 <Simeon> diskchecking 32 gb can take a while...
00:28:58 <Simeon> they dont go into documents, they should be inside D: /portableapps
00:29:09 <pa_5513> yeh, its about half way through now...i started it before when i mentioned it
00:29:24 <pa_5513> yes i moved them while i checked the disk
00:30:11 <Simeon> did you run any of the apps?
00:30:26 <Simeon> reason for my asking is that if not you wont have settings to loose.
00:30:37 <pa_5513> no, they wouldnt work either...just the black box
00:30:59 <pa_5513> well the menu thing wouldnt open so i couldnt open the apps through it
00:31:07 <Simeon> ok
00:31:22 <Simeon> never seen that behaviour.
00:31:23 <pa_5513> it was just a thought in case they are fine
00:31:36 <pa_5513> yes its odd isnt it
00:31:51 <Simeon> i hope its not your pc. do you have any special security measures in place?
00:32:15 <pa_5513> i have windows essentials and malware bytes
00:32:34 <Simeon> ok.
00:32:51 <Simeon> I thought maybe you werent allowed to write to yout TEMP-folder
00:32:51 <pa_5513> its a mini pc with only 8gb, hence the 32gb card, and the desitre for portable apps
00:32:59 <Simeon> i see
00:33:21 <pa_5513> ah. never had problems downloading before, or this probelem with opening them
00:34:26 <pa_5513> it would probably have been quicker to just format it haha
00:34:39 <Simeon> hehe
00:35:03 <pa_5513> it wont let me stop it either.
00:37:33 <Simeon> I hope it will be done soon.
00:39:55 <pa_5513> ok check done, and im installuing - error message says - 'error opening file for writing'. then it says - 'd: portableapps/.nomedia' - then abort/retry/cancel....
00:40:27 <Simeon> what file system? FAT? NTFS?
00:40:55 <pa_5513> err, not sure, how can i check?
00:41:08 <Simeon> rightclick on the drive in explorer.
00:41:32 <pa_5513> it has installed a bit of it, then stopped - it actual says retry abort or ignore - not cancel
00:41:46 <Simeon> ignore
00:41:49 <pa_5513> do you mean the SD card
00:41:58 <Simeon> yes
00:42:12 <pa_5513> its a FAT 32
00:42:16 <Simeon> ok
00:42:18 <pa_5513> so should i click ignore?
00:42:21 <Simeon> yes
00:43:12 <pa_5513> its checged the error to the same as before but says desktop.ini instead of nomedia
00:43:27 <pa_5513> changed the error msg...i mean
00:44:00 <Simeon> i have no idea why. but I'd go with ignore
00:44:40 <Simeon> maybe formatting would have been better - eliminates that kind of errors
00:44:55 <pa_5513> ill do that now then
00:45:13 <Simeon> ok
00:48:03 <Simeon> then instal the platform/menu first. then the app-installers will find the right folder aztomagically.
00:48:45 <pa_5513> i am installing it now...so far so good...
00:49:12 <pa_5513> what are the app installers? you mean the apps i have alreayd insatlled?
00:49:17 <Simeon> did the format go so fast
00:49:28 <Simeon> ?
00:49:56 <Simeon> with app installer i meant the installers for firefox portable, 7 zip portable etc
00:50:01 <pa_5513> yeh, went quick..its an empty card
00:50:37 <Simeon> you can use the built-in app-directory once the menu is installed and running.
00:50:45 <pa_5513> it was a quick format option too... it didnt seem to give me any other options
00:51:10 <Simeon> lets hope its working now
00:51:18 <pa_5513> are the installers white boxes with the blue borders?
00:51:39 <pa_5513> yes hope so... its moving on much further than the other one
00:51:49 <pa_5513> the progress bar i mean
00:52:05 <Simeon> normally they look like normal files with the usb drive as icon.
00:52:22 <Simeon> maybe you have a theme that lets them look li9ke blue boxes?
00:52:36 <pa_5513> im on XP...?
00:52:46 <pa_5513> yellow folders?
00:52:55 <Simeon> yes
00:53:06 <Simeon> i think so. havent been on XP for a while
00:55:27 <pa_5513> mmm...no, i do have yellow folders but these are more like old style windows looking...actually they are grey boxes, with a blue thin strip across the top and white box underneath...with 3 little dots in the top right...they look likje old style windows colour scheme...
00:55:56 <pa_5513> i guess we see if they work soon enough
00:58:42 <Simeon> you mean like the seamonkey icon here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/images/Tbird_FTP_link.PNG
00:59:05 <Simeon> if it looks like that something is broken.
00:59:11 <pa_5513> do you help epople a lot on here?. you seem to know a lot about this
00:59:50 <pa_5513> yes thats what they look like
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01:01:17 <Simeon> not so much lately but I am a member of the community for 5 years.
01:01:18 <pa_5513> ive notice all apps appear as that then turn into individual icons...thes just stay like that
01:01:39 <pa_5513> ah, done it...it has opened the menu now
01:02:09 <pa_5513> will those app be ok if i click again on the down file on the browser?
01:02:23 <Simeon> down file?
01:03:05 <Simeon> the easiest way is to go to options and use the built-in app store like thing.
01:03:17 <pa_5513> sorry meant download file... it just says there is no registered extrension for that file type - i am on opera
01:03:42 <pa_5513> so i should download them again from the site through that menu thing?
01:04:19 <Simeon> yes. it will be faster than browsing for each one of them individually.
01:04:31 <Simeon> glad the menu is working
01:08:22 <pa_5513> how do oyu mean? are the file apps i have useless then or will they change through the menu...? or shal i dlete them?
01:09:27 <Simeon> those are the installers for the apps. they will install the apps to D: /portableapps/APPNAMEPortable
01:09:46 <pa_5513> ah sorry i get you now. onme thing though...the menu disappears every time i click on something else and i have to click on start grey arrow again to get it back...is that normal?
01:09:56 <Simeon> yes
01:10:07 <Simeon> it can be set to never hide if you like
01:10:28 <pa_5513> ahhh, i get you now. yes id like it to stay on
01:11:45 <Simeon> one sec. lets install the apps first.
01:12:06 <Simeon> do the installers have a usb drive as icons?
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01:12:53 <pa_5513> no they have they grey box thing - like the monkey one
01:13:12 <Simeon> then they are unusable.
01:13:57 <Simeon> then you can delete them and use the built in app directory
01:15:06 <pa_5513> am i looking in the right place...they are just the ones i copied over to my documents before, while i formatted...has the software recognised them and converted them or something?
01:15:27 <Simeon> no
01:15:39 <Simeon> it doesnt do anything with them
01:15:58 <pa_5513> should i copy them back across into the folder and see? or are they totally broken?
01:16:07 <Simeon> what happens if you double click on one of them?
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01:16:42 <pa_5513> just the black box
01:17:22 <Simeon> then they are completely broken
01:17:32 <pa_5513> they are labelled as exe files
01:17:52 <pa_5513> ok ill just have to reinstall through menu then
01:17:57 <Simeon> yes
01:18:03 <pa_5513> how do i stop it disappearing?
01:18:38 <Simeon> http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#advanced
01:19:00 <Simeon> do what it says at "remain visible"
01:20:19 <pa_5513> i see...where is the menu.ini?
01:20:26 <Simeon> add a "RemainVisible=True " to the [DisplayOptions] section of the file D: \PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data\PortableAppsMenu.ini
01:20:56 <Simeon> close the menu first
01:22:28 <pa_5513> this is all it says in the potableappsmenu boc - [DisplayOptions] Language=English
01:22:56 <pa_5513> where abouts would i add the above?
01:23:12 <Simeon> just in a new line
01:23:17 <pa_5513> ok
01:24:23 <pa_5513> cool that works
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01:24:45 <Simeon> nice
01:24:56 <Simeon> then you can add apps: Options-Apps-Get more apps
01:25:06 <Simeon> hi sar3th
01:25:10 <pa_5513> oh hang on..its gone off agian
01:25:24 <sar3th> hi Simeon
01:25:35 <PatrickPowell> ty Gizmokid2005
01:27:57 <pa_5513> do i need to add the " " to the ends?
01:28:06 <Simeon> no
01:28:14 <pa_5513> i have saved it and it keeps disappearing...
01:28:29 <Simeon> without the "?
01:28:38 <Simeon> did you restart the menu?
01:28:47 <pa_5513> yes thats what i put
01:29:01 <pa_5513> yes a have opened it a few times
01:29:45 <Simeon> not just made it disappear but closed it completely by bringing it into focus and then hitting the X button?
01:33:04 <pa_5513> yes it works now
01:33:23 <pa_5513> final hurdle now...getting the apps to download proerly!
01:33:57 <Simeon> nice
01:34:13 <PatrickPowell> it will go well not much too it from there
01:35:18 <Simeon> ok.
01:35:25 <pa_5513> its brought up a big list now.. that disappearing thing is a very strange function to add eh? haha
01:35:37 <Simeon> yes. its an advanced option.
01:35:55 <Simeon> Ill leave you guys now. GNight.
01:36:47 <pa_5513> just one more thing...many of them have error
01:37:08 <pa_5513> written next to them? is that me or just a general error
01:37:46 <Simeon> there shouldne be any errors
01:37:57 <Simeon> what does it say
01:39:33 <Simeon> bye now
01:39:34 <pa_5513> a bit of the way down, ther ois around 20 odd things that have in capital ERROR, then the app name then just says they are 0mb...
01:39:48 <pa_5513> mare still there
01:40:17 <Simeon> what happens if you install/choose one that has no error?
01:40:31 <pa_5513> ill try now
01:41:22 <pa_5513> its installing so far... i say about 20, but actually its more like 40 like that... are they ok on yours now?
01:42:07 <Simeon> i dont have a copy running but last time i did there werent any errors.
01:42:59 <pa_5513> ahh...must have just been loading them up, because they have all appeared properly now...phew!
01:43:12 <Simeon> nice
01:43:13 <pa_5513> must just have been a bit slow
01:43:20 <Simeon> slow internet?
01:43:42 <pa_5513> not majorly but sometimes it can be
01:43:54 <Simeon> ok
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01:44:29 <pa_5513> thanks so much simeon, you have been a great help, good night
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04:30:10 <PatrickPowell> bbiab
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07:06:54 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
07:07:54 <PatrickPowell> After 3 days of trying to figure out the slow load speed of Rednotebook I think I ight have answers finally fmi check it out http://portableapps.com/node/31239
07:08:32 <PatrickPowell> not trying to spam chat just want that in log so in case anyone sees it they can comment
07:08:36 <PatrickPowell> Night all
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11:20:40 <pa_2223> Hi, where can I report bugs of LibreOfficePortable installer ?
11:21:34 <pa_2223> he ho
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11:25:36 <PatrickPowell> wow barely waited for a reply
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12:45:02 <PatrickPowell> Dang I did it :)
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15:18:22 <pa_6396> Can someone help me please?
15:19:09 <pa_6396> I need help fixing my USB
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