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01:18:00 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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01:38:42 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
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02:00:43 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
02:00:49 <kAlug> hi PatrickPowell
02:00:57 <GordCaswell> hi PatrickPowell
02:01:03 <kAlug> hi GordCaswell
02:01:34 <PatrickPowell> Hi GordCaswell and kAlug
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02:01:57 <PatrickPowell> GordCaswell: thanks for your help in forums
02:02:22 <GordCaswell> no problem. Got everything squared away with John?
02:03:18 <PatrickPowell> waiting for apporval of update / although one change maybe but asked him to check it cause also sent change
02:03:31 <PatrickPowell> not sure ig last brain storm was appropos
02:03:32 <GordCaswell> Glad to hear it
02:03:54 <PatrickPowell> we had a lenghty discussion last night
02:05:30 <PatrickPowell> got a second for a pm?
02:05:35 <PatrickPowell> easy nothing major
02:05:40 <GordCaswell> sure
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06:53:01 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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08:56:35 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
08:57:16 <vf2nsr> anyone know if it is possible to access the PA SF directories via FTP for downloading?
08:57:20 <vf2nsr> If so how?
09:00:51 <vf2nsr> NP I see we are all busy will ask JOhn when I see him later folks
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11:27:37 <cikgu2u> how do i install moodle
11:27:45 <cikgu2u> as portable application
11:27:54 <cikgu2u> any one can help me
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12:59:04 <habr100> hello
12:59:09 <habr100> I have a problem
12:59:27 <habr100> how can I setup portable opera for opening externale web links from external programs
12:59:32 <habr100> like pidgin etc
12:59:34 <habr100> thx
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13:08:00 <iceunit> hi
13:08:47 <iceunit> is there somone here that can help with info about portableapps ?
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13:48:08 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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14:47:16 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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16:34:45 <JohnTHaller> hola
16:36:32 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi JohnTHaller
16:37:02 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
16:39:05 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm fine. Doing a school exercise right now.
16:39:20 <JohnTHaller> programming?
16:39:46 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Web development. Adding Java applets to a web page.
16:40:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I can give the link as well if you're interested.
16:40:21 <JohnTHaller> Sure, I'll check it out.
16:40:34 <TPFC-SYSTEM> OK.
16:40:35 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://users.metropolia.fi/~jyrkive/applet1-xhtml10.htm
16:40:38 <JohnTHaller> I'm surprised they still teach that in school as there seems to be movement away from Java within web pages.
16:41:17 <JohnTHaller> Although, I'd wager it's still used in enterprise development. (I've been out of that for years now)
16:42:02 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It's an optional course. I'm not required to learn that.
16:42:32 <JohnTHaller> It's used enough that there was interest to get Java Portable working with all our browsers, though.
16:44:59 <JohnTHaller> Your applets all look good here (though there is no 3rd entry) on Firefox 10, Win7 with latest Java
16:47:15 <JohnTHaller> hi PatrickPowell
16:47:43 <PatrickPowell> D Hi JOhn got a minute for im?
16:48:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Thank you. :) I don't have Firefox (not even portable) installed and was wondering if the applets worked on Firefox.
16:48:27 <TPFC-SYSTEM> There indeed is no third applet (neither should be).
16:48:38 <JohnTHaller> Any other browsers you need looked at?
16:49:21 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Internet Explorer. I have tested it already myself, though.
16:50:41 <JohnTHaller> Works in IE9 and current Opera as well
16:51:40 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Good, thanks. :)
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16:55:29 <JohnTHaller> sure thing
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17:06:49 <PatrickPowell> Real quick I p:)
17:07:16 <TPFC-SYSTEM> JohnTHaller: By the way, regarding programming exercises there is something really cool I could share with you...
17:07:30 <JohnTHaller> what's that?
17:07:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> A 3D chess game currently under development.
17:07:59 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm the lead developer.
17:08:21 <JohnTHaller> Ah cool. You going to open source it?
17:08:41 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The source code is open already. :)
17:09:25 <JohnTHaller> Cool cool. There's a surprising lack of good open source chess games. We have Brutal Chess and WinBoard in our directory, but they're both a bit lacking.
17:12:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I doubt if it will be good... xD
17:13:26 <JohnTHaller> Hey, you never know. And since it's open source, you could get more folks interested and helping out as you build it.
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17:31:07 <PatrickPowell> ok back to programmming lol
17:31:07 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I am off to today's taping of http://socialnewsmedia.net/
17:31:36 <PatrickPowell> john one more pm please?
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20:59:00 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
20:59:21 <PatrickPowell> anyone good with xml code?
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21:20:33 <kAlug> PatrickPowell: maybe
21:21:20 <PatrickPowell> ok how can I change a defined variable <WIINDOWSPATH> to a relative variable like folder program is launched from?
21:21:48 <kAlug> Do you have a sample?
21:24:00 <PatrickPowell> ok in fontconfig there is a call as to where to search for fonts calls for <WINDOWSPAT> which looks for the fonts in the windows path environment vartiable
21:24:30 <PatrickPowell> I want to change that somehow to call for the path to be location of launchedapp program
21:24:49 <PatrickPowell> or directory of launched app program
21:25:20 <kAlug> Can you post the XML file?
21:26:00 <PatrickPowell> hang sec
21:26:03 <PatrickPowell> please
21:26:35 <kAlug> Sure, will just switch IRC clients.
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21:30:48 <PatrickPowell> .tell kalug I need to get off ofr a f ew but this is what I am talking baouthttp://pastebin.com/J0Q5QYXc particularily line 36 and then maybe line 80
21:30:49 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell: I'll pass that on when kalug is around.
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21:48:40 <kAlug> GizmoBot: ping
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22:17:57 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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22:18:10 <pa_2657> hello
22:18:16 <PatrickPowell> kAlug: sorry about that fotgot the tiem
22:18:22 <PatrickPowell> time
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22:18:59 <PatrickPowell> kAlug: did you get the message from gizmobot?
22:19:35 <pa_2657> PortableApps - why I can't to put in folder shortcuts (of different folders)?
22:20:32 <PatrickPowell> pa_2657: Not sure I understand what you mean
22:21:49 <PatrickPowell> where is it you want them to be?
22:22:06 <pa_2657> i want to put shortcut in folder C:\PortableApps where ther soft is alredy present from that site portableapps
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22:23:08 <pa_2657> but the link didn't share in Platform 10.0
22:24:40 <PatrickPowell> what shortcut you tring to put there?
22:24:49 <pa_2657> but if I put the full portable folder (with programm) it's presents here after refreshing
22:25:45 <PatrickPowell> I think you are leaving out the intent of what you are trying to do?
22:26:03 <PatrickPowell> as I am unclear what your shortcut it trying to poin t to?
22:26:05 <pa_2657> i want not to download and not to change the place of my previous folder, but only try to add in Link menu in the Platform
22:26:32 <PatrickPowell> BUT where are you adding it to ?
22:26:39 <PatrickPowell> the folder? the platform?
22:26:44 <PatrickPowell> and what is t he link too?
22:27:21 <PatrickPowell> and where do you want the shortcuts to show?
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22:28:42 <pa_2657> i try to insert shortcut in "PortableApps", where already present all my soft , i mean: FileZillaPortable, 7-ZipPortable. I want to add only shortcut, not the folder like http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps
22:29:35 <PatrickPowell> ok and where are the folders located?
22:29:40 <PatrickPowell> that you are pointing too?
22:29:43 <pa_2657> but shortcuts not shown in menu programm
22:30:13 <pa_2657> in C:\programm files\game
22:31:02 <PatrickPowell> then how does that maintain portability if the folder if the PA file is moved? Is this for a portable device or installed locally?
22:31:33 <pa_2657> installed locally
22:31:34 <PatrickPowell> and if locally why not just use the one from windows?
22:31:53 <pa_2657> not for using in flashcards
22:32:47 <pa_2657> I don't want to create once more just the same folder in two places,
22:33:00 <PatrickPowell> but if you create a shortcut on a flash card then move the cards elsewhere the shortcuts will not work?
22:33:37 <pa_2657> I know it. Because of PC
22:34:00 <pa_2657> Just run soft on my own PC
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22:36:13 <pa_2657> for example in html codding we must use command '..\folder\run.exe' if the file not located in the same root folder.. And think that in this programm the same, & I decided to ask if it possible to run in the same way
22:36:18 <PatrickPowell> so portability is not a problem which makes ask again why not just use the host computers shortcuts
22:37:04 <PatrickPowell> best bet IMHO is to ask on the forum where you can clearly define what youwant what you expect and why
22:37:13 <PatrickPowell> Because I am still rather confused
22:38:12 <pa_2657> ok, maybe I'll
22:38:58 <pa_2657> thanks
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22:45:34 <kAlug> PatrickPowell: sorry, forgot to set status as |Away.
22:49:23 <kAlug> hmm... I think pa_2657 wanted to use PAP as the Start menu.
22:49:24 <kAlug> PatrickPowell: try using DefaultData + [FileWrite]:Type=Replace
22:50:00 <PatrickPowell> kAlug: I do that already in PA I want to have it changed in base app
22:50:47 <PatrickPowell> kAlug: the xml is being read by GTK+ not sur eif htat helps or hinders or matters
22:58:13 <kAlug> Again, replace that string with the path to the app's fonts folder in DefaultData and use [FileWrite] to update it.
22:59:08 <kAlug> Where string = WINDOWSFONTDIR
23:00:35 <PatrickPowell> Again that will not work on base app since base app is not using launcher
23:00:41 <PatrickPowell> I have the fix for portable
23:01:00 <PatrickPowell> I am trying to help the developer to make it happen perhaps in the entire program
23:01:15 <PatrickPowell> whether it is a local install or a portabl one
23:02:17 <PatrickPowell> so I would then need to change it via GTK + I guess
23:02:19 <PatrickPowell> thanks
23:07:18 <kAlug> Ah, got it.
23:07:18 <kAlug> But in the case of a local install, it will only happen once. I don't see the need to fixing it. Just make it not freeze, like SMPlayer does.
23:07:19 <kAlug> My best idea is to change the HOME environment variable.
23:10:53 <PatrickPowell> ok so no way to have it both ways
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23:27:13 <PatrickPowell> wb kAlug
23:27:18 <PatrickPowell> thanks for the help
23:27:31 <PatrickPowell> I knew thi swould be a tough nut to crack
23:27:39 <PatrickPowell> and may not even be possibel
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23:40:24 <kAlug> hello GizmoBot
23:40:24 <GizmoBot> Hello kAlug
23:40:44 <kAlug> Good, I'm still here.
23:45:09 <PatrickPowell> you made it back alive kAlug lol
23:46:27 <kAlug> My Ubuntu LiveCD is collapsing; I don't know what is still working here.
23:46:38 <kAlug> Just waiting the download of the AMD64 ISO.
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