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02:28:08 <PatrickPowell> anyone know a good online installer dev where I can look at the installer in file? Having issues extracting an simple exe file
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02:50:00 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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03:00:28 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
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03:09:56 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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15:17:37 <HighMan> Why is that when I search in the portable apps menu, sometimes the first few letters and some weird symbols?
15:20:46 <Gizmokid2005> HighMan: you've run into the same bug I have with no resolution. The only solution is to type a "/" first
15:21:03 <HighMan> Ok... Odd bug
15:21:16 <Gizmokid2005> yes it is.
15:21:26 <Gizmokid2005> I run into it quite regularly
15:22:22 <benedikt93> happens to me, too. But according to the forums, John is aware of this
15:22:51 <HighMan> Any one know when the next version is coming? Or if there is a beta?
15:22:52 <Gizmokid2005> I was the one who initially brought it to his attention...and that was the "fix" I was told to use.
15:23:03 <Gizmokid2005> HighMan: no idea atm.
15:23:20 <HighMan> Ok..
15:23:40 <HighMan> Is there an app to keep the flash drive from being infected/
15:25:40 <Gizmokid2005> HighMan: not really.
15:25:54 <Gizmokid2005> use your own AV. You can scan with ClamWin Portable if you want, but it's not a realtime scanner.
15:26:48 <HighMan> Ok, I just don't my flash drive screwed up... It took a while to download all apps and multiboot isos
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16:00:08 <kronophskiy> Hi guys
16:00:42 <kronophskiy> I've come across the "lupo" pen suite, and it looks very similar to the pa platform. You guys know it?
16:01:15 <Gizmokid2005> kronophskiy: yes, it's one of many "clones" out there.
16:02:22 <HighMan> As in complete replicates/
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16:08:02 <kronophskiy> Gizmokid2005: does it violate anything? Is it warez or adware?
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17:05:04 <Gizmokid2005> HighMan: not quite, but close. I had to step away for lunch, but kronophskiy was right, there's quite a bit of warez in other catalogs
17:05:12 <Gizmokid2005> on top of being complete ripoffs of our setup here.
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17:43:25 <pa_4447> Help!
17:44:29 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4447: ask your question
17:45:05 <pa_4447> Hello, I have a problem regarding Portable Java...
17:47:08 <pa_4447> I currently have downloaded Java Update 31.1 and put it into /PApps/CommonFiles/Java. At first, I thought that this would be the only thing I would need to do to get other apps to run this version instead of my installed version
17:48:18 <pa_4447> I then Uninstalled my Java from my Vista machine using Uninstall programs and then proceeded to verify that I did not have any active Java running on my system.
17:48:18 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4447: did you actually use our installer for java?
17:48:26 <pa_4447> No
17:48:38 <Gizmokid2005> You should probably start with that.
17:48:50 <Gizmokid2005> also, if you remove java from your system, you can't expect it to just use the portable version
17:48:57 <Gizmokid2005> java is found on your system by environment variables
17:49:04 <Gizmokid2005> which are removed when you uninstall java.
17:49:13 <pa_4447> You mean in the registry right
17:49:24 <Gizmokid2005> so, if you want to more/less replace locally installed java with portable java, you'd need to add envvars to do that
17:50:08 <Gizmokid2005> .g windows environment variable
17:50:08 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_variable
17:50:11 <pa_4447> Yes, I understand. My intent was to verify that any Java application would FAIL, but they work just fine even with the regular Java uninstalled
17:50:12 <Gizmokid2005> ^ that pa_4447
17:50:27 <Gizmokid2005> if that's the case, you didn't remove all instances of java.
17:51:11 <pa_4447> That would explain why it isn't failing. I'll check into your link above. Thank you.
17:51:38 <Gizmokid2005> pa_4447: remember, it will, but not quite.
17:51:45 <Gizmokid2005> if you installed java with the installer to the portable location
17:51:48 <Gizmokid2005> that will setup the envvars
17:51:53 <Gizmokid2005> but if you just copied files, that wouldn't do that.
17:52:35 <Gizmokid2005> I would check envvars first.
17:53:01 <pa_4447> I think my terminology is wrong. I downloaded the PortableApps version and executed it to setup the files in a particular location. Is that what you mean by installer, or do you mean the jPortable launcher?\
17:54:09 <pa_4447> Can you confirm this question. Is jPortable launcher intended to go out and get a copy of the JVM from PortableApps.com and use that as the Java or does it find the local copy of Java and launch that?
17:57:59 <pa_4447> I'm getting an error message: PortableApps.com/jPortableLauncher is not found. Has this source been placed somewhere else?
17:58:01 <Gizmokid2005> no, it creates its own java install
17:58:35 <Gizmokid2005> well, having just installed java portable gives you the java files, but jportable launcher is an app used to actually execute java apps with that installation of java
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18:02:32 <pa_4447> I see, so in other words, any application requiring Java could be launched with jPortable Launcher which would then use the Java in /CommonFiles folder -- Is that right? Also, if Java Portable is installed, the envVar should be pointing to it as well. Is that right?
18:04:48 <Gizmokid2005> Yes, and...partially
18:05:17 <Gizmokid2005> the EnvVar comes with a warning, because you're setting the envvar to look at a portable installation of Java, which, if moves will stop working, etc.
18:06:25 <pa_4447> Ahhhh, that is true. So that is why you would use jPortable Launcher, to run that particular version of Java instead of the system one! Got it Thank you!
18:07:02 <Gizmokid2005> yup!
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18:10:42 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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18:28:46 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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22:14:12 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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