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04:18:35 <JohnTHaller> Details on the few day delay in rolling out app updates: http://portableapps.com/node/31623
04:18:54 <PatrickPowell> TY John
04:19:23 <PatrickPowell> Think I might have figured out how to create a dummy for TB and my idea
04:19:32 <PatrickPowell> just having some NSIS issues
04:19:44 <PatrickPowell> or more than not typo issues
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08:00:16 <Nate_> Hi
08:00:46 <Nate_> Has anyone else noticed that Portable Skype (latest version) is corrupt file?
08:01:43 <Nate_> help
08:01:44 <GizmoBot> Nate_: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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13:33:23 <burtek> Hi. When will the AudacityPortable app be updated to the latest version (2.0)?
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13:40:46 <sar3th> according to http://portableapps.com/node/31623 it might take a while
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19:14:51 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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19:48:34 <pa_1555> hello
19:48:43 <PatrickPowell> hi
19:49:14 <pa_1555> i am using portable photoshop wich works on my laptop but it says "another instance of photoshop is already running"
19:49:19 <pa_1555> but there realy isnt
19:49:32 <pa_1555> doesnt show up on proces list or anything
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19:49:53 <PatrickPowell> Where did you get portable photoshop? That is a commercial program not a PA program
19:49:56 <pa_1555> could anyone help?
19:50:24 <pa_1555> i dont remember where ive got it its just linked to portableapps.com
19:50:40 <PatrickPowell> oh where was it linked?
19:51:12 <pa_1555> to this site...
19:51:53 <PatrickPowell> what site please give me the url
19:52:06 <pa_1555> http://portableapps.com as i just said
19:52:19 <PatrickPowell> because http://portableapps.com/node/14441 might want to look at this
19:52:37 <PatrickPowell> because there is no Portable Photoshop and PA has never had one
19:53:11 <PatrickPowell> so not knowing where you got it or who developed it and considering it is illegal not sure we can help
19:54:23 <pa_1555> well then ... ive got a program that gives an error that its running already but it isnt
19:54:47 <PatrickPowell> well then I suggest you speak to developer of that particular program
19:54:54 <PatrickPowell> or seek help from Adobe
19:54:59 <PatrickPowell> since it is not our program
19:56:06 <PatrickPowell> because we have no idea how that "portable" version was created or how it is run
19:56:08 <pa_1555> well its weird.,. audacity and other programs do work
19:56:28 <pa_1555> i gues ill just put another copy on this pc
19:56:34 <PatrickPowell> Because they have been coded properly to do so and our thouroughly tested
19:57:17 <PatrickPowell> so As Suggested your best help is to seek out the person who created the portable photoshop and ask them
19:57:36 <pa_1555> im pretty sure it has been one of your coders but not published
19:57:46 <PatrickPowell> by who?
19:57:56 <PatrickPowell> and if it was not published then how di dyou get it?
19:58:14 <pa_1555> i dont know but the setup automatically asked for the PA folder and had the PA icon
19:58:19 <pa_1555> not published on this site
19:58:35 <PatrickPowell> well what site was it published on?
19:58:52 <PatrickPowell> Do you still have the installation file?
19:59:03 <pa_1555> and it also says at the error "photoshop extendex cs5 (portableapps.com launcher)
19:59:16 <benedikt93> the setup automatically asked for the PA folder and had the PA icon --> The publisher might just have used the tools from PA.c
19:59:35 <PatrickPowell> but that does not mean it is from PA
19:59:48 <PatrickPowell> as I have asked do you still have th einstallation file?
19:59:55 <PatrickPowell> or the site where you downloaded it from?
19:59:57 <pa_1555> i may have the setup im not sure
20:00:08 <PatrickPowell> try re-running it?
20:00:20 <PatrickPowell> but it is definitely not one of ours
20:00:26 <pa_1555> then il have to find it
20:00:34 <PatrickPowell> guess so
20:01:18 <pa_1555> also, if you know wich DLL file contains the info about the windows login screen?
20:01:40 <PatrickPowell> how is that related to PA?
20:01:48 <pa_1555> not
20:02:05 <pa_1555> just asking if you know that since im here
20:02:12 <PatrickPowell> then would suggest querying google or Microsoft
20:02:58 <pa_1555> well google is full of stuff to destory your windows and microsoft takes ages to repsond
20:03:11 <PatrickPowell> oh well
20:03:15 <pa_1555> and its just to costumize the rest of this pc so im not in a rush
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20:21:28 <PatrickPowell> Hi Pyromaniac
20:21:34 <Pyromaniac> sup bro
20:21:46 <PatrickPowell> not much mind if I ask you a question
20:21:54 <Pyromaniac> shoot
20:22:25 <PatrickPowell> OK I am attempting to create a custom launcher I need to borrow some features of th ePAL
20:22:35 <PatrickPowell> but not sure which files to include
20:22:51 <PatrickPowell> need to replicate find in in file and replace in ini file
20:23:25 <PatrickPowell> any ideas?
20:24:08 <Pyromaniac> PAL works through ${SegmentFile}s
20:24:25 * Pyromaniac is off to check what file you'll look at
20:24:47 <PatrickPowell> Yes I saw that I need to figure which files do that function
20:26:03 <Pyromaniac> So you, to get this straight, you want to use code in your launcher that will do basically FileWrite:Find/Replace that the launcher does?
20:26:26 <Pyromaniac> in an INI file, right?
20:26:30 <PatrickPowell> yes basically
20:26:39 <PatrickPowell> well lets call it one
20:26:46 * Pyromaniac searches...
20:26:50 <PatrickPowell> it is actually a js
20:26:56 <PatrickPowell> but same format
20:27:38 <PatrickPowell> [FileWriteN] that is what I need
20:27:41 <PatrickPowell> for an ini
20:29:02 <Pyromaniac> Looks like the bulk of the matter is from Line 52 and down in FileWrite.nsh
20:29:26 <PatrickPowell> ok will look thanks
20:29:32 <Pyromaniac> You'll need to make lots of changes, though
20:30:12 <Pyromaniac> Considering that it's not going to read the variables from the launcher.ini, you'll need to manually set them.
20:30:22 <PatrickPowell> yes as Basically what I need is to read info from one file1 read info from file 2 replace info in 2 with info in 1
20:30:42 <PatrickPowell> and there would b e 6 instances
20:30:55 <Pyromaniac> In my opinion, it'd be easier doing it from scratch
20:31:14 <PatrickPowell> for a non-programmer?
20:31:25 <PatrickPowell> Probably would be easier I suppose
20:31:25 <Pyromaniac> Yap, it's not too hard to replace in files
20:31:48 <Pyromaniac> I think there's a function in NSIS that you can do it fairly easily
20:31:51 <PatrickPowell> so start with default NSIS code and create it from there a special code?
20:31:55 * Pyromaniac goes to check
20:32:02 <PatrickPowell> me too
20:33:16 <PatrickPowell> ReadINIStr and WriteINIStr I think?
20:33:52 <PatrickPowell> but shouldn't I have a replaceinistr?
20:33:59 <Pyromaniac> For ini's yeah, but you wanted javascript?
20:34:10 <Pyromaniac> ...
20:34:22 <PatrickPowell> yes but it appears to be written as same?
20:34:54 <Pyromaniac> Found it: Search "replace" in the NSIS manual
20:35:01 <Pyromaniac> It's the first link.
20:35:10 <Pyromaniac> "Word Functions Header"
20:35:12 <PatrickPowell> ok let me look
20:36:38 <PatrickPowell> so use word find?
20:37:00 <PatrickPowell> word replace?
20:38:05 <PatrickPowell> problem is is I need to read one files info then put it in a different file?
20:38:38 <PatrickPowell> and the info in first file will be a var
20:38:52 <PatrickPowell> since depending on a user some part may be different
20:39:31 <Pyromaniac> And you said this is a javascript file?
20:39:39 <PatrickPowell> yes
20:39:46 <PatrickPowell> user_pref("calendar.list.sortOrder", "12c1df98-d8ac-4922-b2a7-31f577498c6d");
20:39:56 <PatrickPowell> I need to read the part in quotes
20:40:02 <PatrickPowell> and save that as a var
20:40:13 <PatrickPowell> and read same on another file
20:40:14 <Pyromaniac> give me a sec
20:40:27 <PatrickPowell> and replace 2nd file with first file info
20:40:35 <PatrickPowell> and need to do it 6 times
20:40:49 <PatrickPowell> in same file
20:40:57 <PatrickPowell> although the var reamins same
20:41:00 <Pyromaniac> I don't think you can with NSIS
20:41:19 <PatrickPowell> but I can if it is ini?
20:41:21 <Pyromaniac> Not easily, I mean
20:41:48 <Pyromaniac> Well, an reading an INI is built into NSIS
20:41:49 <PatrickPowell> because PAL manual says it does
20:42:06 <Pyromaniac> XML is supported through a plugin
20:42:14 <Pyromaniac> javascript is a whole new thing
20:42:20 <PatrickPowell> one sec
20:45:27 <Pyromaniac> I think you'd have to run a search for "user_pref(" and then search through each character, until the comma, then save that into a variable, and do it again until the next parenthesis and save that into another variable. It doesn't look like there's a javascript read function or plugin through NSIS that would make it easier than that for ya.
20:46:20 <PatrickPowell> I know I read somewhere where you can use ini to read and write to js file looking fo rit
20:48:07 <Pyromaniac> I kept thinking you were Patrick Patience, and I saw "Powell" instead and I was like "what?" But I searched and found out you were vf2nsr
20:48:23 <PatrickPowell> lol sorry
20:48:25 <Pyromaniac> np
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20:48:43 <vf2nsr> that better
20:49:28 <Pyromaniac> See, I remember things in color and shapes, and vf2nsr has it's own shape and color, and PatrickPowell is different, so I had no idea it was you XD
20:49:43 <vf2nsr> :)
20:52:20 <vf2nsr> ok so lets pretend the 2 files were ini files
20:52:27 <Pyromaniac> ok
20:52:52 <vf2nsr> so I would need readini replace ini?
20:53:22 <Pyromaniac> ReadINIStr and WriteINIStr
20:53:27 <vf2nsr> this would only need to occur on initial launch not subsequent launches
20:53:39 <vf2nsr> is there a compareinistr?
20:53:42 <Pyromaniac> If statements are great for that
20:53:56 <Pyromaniac> I don't recall one off the top of my head, but let me check
20:54:14 <Pyromaniac> Wait, you don't need to
20:54:38 <vf2nsr> so basically I could read from file one read fromfile2 then if same skip and if diff write file1 to file 2 info?
20:54:58 <Pyromaniac> to compare two INI values, just read from both files into var1 and var2 and compare
20:55:02 <Pyromaniac> yea
20:55:35 <vf2nsr> so I need to call read write and compare?
20:56:29 <vf2nsr> ok should I code this into my laucher or make it a separate nsh to call it in?
20:56:48 <Pyromaniac> whatever rocks your boat
20:57:04 <vf2nsr> ok hmm give am e a way to go I guess
20:57:12 <vf2nsr> Hmm just got an idea
20:59:12 <sar3th> pa_1555: msgina?
20:59:37 <sar3th> just a wild guess
21:01:56 <sar3th> vf2nsr: can you specify what exactly you need
21:02:04 <sar3th> i got confused half-way
21:02:33 <vf2nsr> I need to read data from js from one file compare to another then write info to second if different
21:03:09 <vf2nsr> info is pretty much a list like an ini
21:03:23 <sar3th> ini-files are key-value storage
21:03:51 <Pyromaniac> pastebin?
21:04:00 <vf2nsr> hang on sec
21:04:08 <vf2nsr> will do it then need to make dinner
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21:07:43 <vf2nsr|away> (17:06:27) vf2nsr: http://pastebin.com/ak8fVCvA there is what I need to do
21:08:48 <sar3th> i would suggest using regexes, but i don't think that's possible in NSIS
21:09:24 <sar3th> also, i fail to see how this is similar to .ini files
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21:32:33 <vf2nsr|away> dinner in oven got 20 minutes lol
21:33:20 <vf2nsr|away> sar3th: I need to do it in the file that is located on in a folder before anything is executed
21:33:38 <vf2nsr|away> all the reg stuff is handled
21:34:19 <vf2nsr|away> sar3th: All I am doing is replacing a value just like in an ini
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21:35:33 <sar3th> <Pyromaniac> ReadINIStr and WriteINIStr
21:35:45 <sar3th> these commands will not do a search and replace afaik
21:35:56 <sar3th> they will locate the right key and set the value
21:36:19 <vf2nsr|away> ok that is what I need then
21:36:44 <vf2nsr|away> as I said I just need to replae the 32 didget var
21:36:53 <vf2nsr|away> will try and see lol
21:36:57 <vf2nsr|away> tyvm
21:36:58 <Pyromaniac> whoa sar3th
21:37:09 <Pyromaniac> he's editing a javascript file
21:37:17 <Pyromaniac> not an INI
21:37:36 <vf2nsr|away> but should work the same?
21:37:58 <vf2nsr|away> since the js file is stored in the data f older
21:38:52 <Pyromaniac> "<sar3th> also, i fail to see how this is similar to .ini files"
21:39:07 <Pyromaniac> INI has a syntax unique to Windows
21:43:27 <sar3th> <sar3th> these commands will not do a search and replace afaik
21:43:27 <vf2nsr|away> ok look at it this way I want to read a value from a text file and then compare it to another file and replace if different
21:43:37 <sar3th> read: DO NOT USE THESE FOR SEARCH AND REPLACE
21:43:44 <sar3th> kthxbai :)
21:43:45 <vf2nsr|away> and it is in 6 places to read and write
21:44:13 <vf2nsr|away> ok SO it can not be done
21:44:17 <vf2nsr|away> ty for your time
21:44:22 <vf2nsr|away> back to dinner prep
21:44:55 <sar3th> vf2nsr|away: it can probably done, but i think that doing it in NSIS is pretty difficult
21:49:52 <sar3th> i can't find a regex plugin for nsis
21:50:06 <sar3th> you could be lazy and grab the perl plugin and do it in perl :D
21:50:35 <sar3th> ooh, found it
21:50:36 <sar3th> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/NSISpcre_plug-in
21:58:11 <Pyromaniac> do you know Pearl, vf2nsr|away ?
21:59:35 <vf2nsr|away> it is NOT a reexe
21:59:39 <vf2nsr|away> regexe
22:00:35 <sar3th> the suggestion was to use NSISpcre plugin to do your replacements using Regular Expressions (RegEx)
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22:14:19 <Pyromaniac> sar3th: I figured it out
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22:14:42 <ImaGenius> YES!
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22:24:12 <Imafailure> NO!
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