IRC Log from 2012-03-21
00:26:02 <vf2nsr> bbiaf switchin gto ubunut
00:26:07 <vf2nsr> ubuntu even
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00:44:38 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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01:22:00 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
01:22:13 <Pyromaniac> hey, anyone, so I bookmarked this page http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=Pyromaniac&channels=portableapps&prompt=1#
01:22:28 <Pyromaniac> and I was wondering if I could add multiple channels to the link
01:22:44 <Pyromaniac> any idea how
01:23:17 <vf2nsr> you mean change the channel?
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01:25:00 <pa_test> Pyromaniac: use comma
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01:25:21 <sar3th> http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=Pyromaniac&channels=portableapps,portableapps-ot&prompt=1#
01:37:08 <Pyromaniac> just learned I was offered 13,150 to go to Binghamton University
01:38:21 <vf2nsr> pyro did you read my latest post?
01:39:08 <vf2nsr> http://portableapps.com/node/31637
01:39:37 <vf2nsr> that explains what I could not explain earlier
01:39:38 * Pyromaniac reads
01:40:48 <sar3th> vf2nsr: did you consider the regex solution
01:40:49 <sar3th> ?
01:41:06 <vf2nsr> yes I did and have no idea how to use pearl let alone nsis
01:41:14 <sar3th> no need to use perl
01:41:25 <sar3th> just use the http://nsis.sourceforge.net/NSISpcre_plug-in
01:43:16 <Pyromaniac> vf2nsr: What I woulda done is pastebin'd both files and say "how can I move this data from here to here using NSIS"
01:43:41 <vf2nsr> I give up
01:44:03 <sar3th> vf2nsr: don't give up that easily
01:44:21 <vf2nsr> no want to help they just want to criticize
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01:44:40 <sar3th> eh?
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01:59:59 <sar3th> afk|vf2nsr}: PM me when you got a sec
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02:36:28 <Pyromaniac> .seen TimClark
02:36:28 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen timclark around.
02:37:20 <vf2nsr> .seen ChrisMorgan
02:37:20 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen chrismorgan around.
02:37:39 <vf2nsr> .seen Chris Morgan
02:37:39 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen chris around.
03:42:35 <vf2nsr> sar3th: mind if I shoot you a quick im?
03:51:15 <vf2nsr> Pyromaniac you awake?
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03:51:27 <vf2nsr> guees not
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03:58:32 <vf2nsr> hola john
03:59:07 <vf2nsr> I think I fugred out how to do that mod to your script but apparently what I need to make it work does not exist
03:59:56 <JohnTHaller> You mean for the TB Lightning thing? It should be relatively easy as it's basically what I did with Private Browsing by PA.c.
04:00:07 <vf2nsr> not really
04:00:25 <JohnTHaller> how is it not?
04:00:28 <vf2nsr> I need to read info from a pref.js file compare it to a stock one
04:00:36 <vf2nsr> and then write it back to stock
04:01:08 <vf2nsr> let me shoot im ?
04:01:28 <JohnTHaller> I really can't get into code right now. Knee deep in design work
04:01:36 <vf2nsr> ok np
04:01:46 <vf2nsr> it just a bit deeper than first thought
04:01:57 <vf2nsr> I can get it to work manually
04:02:07 <vf2nsr> But need to create a code to do it for me lol
04:02:08 <JohnTHaller> I don't understand why you need to do any of that work, though. Did you analyze the Private Browsing by PA.c setup?
04:02:19 <vf2nsr> Yes I did
04:02:27 <vf2nsr> the data is stored in one file
04:02:39 <vf2nsr> but file is given a unique identifier
04:02:44 <JohnTHaller> It just copies in the FF launcher. Data is stored all over within Data just like with FF. The FF launcher does the work.
04:02:48 <vf2nsr> and I need to be able to change that
04:03:25 <vf2nsr> I got it all explained in a paste bin but will wait
04:03:40 <vf2nsr> so far I have been told that what I need can not be accomplisherd
04:03:45 <JohnTHaller> FOr all intents and purposes, your 2nd copy is just another setup of TB with some preset settings and the launcher one level deeper. What specifically needs custom tweaking that doesn't if you were just using 2nd profile with Lightning installed in it?
04:04:08 <vf2nsr> it is the settings I need to mod
04:04:22 <vf2nsr> and they are stored in js file
04:04:29 <vf2nsr> if it was ini np
04:04:38 <vf2nsr> I could use filewrite
04:04:57 <JohnTHaller> No. I mean why do you need to modify the settings at all in your launcher. The TB launcher already handles portablizing lighting on its own.
04:05:15 <vf2nsr> because to get the calendar to show
04:05:25 <vf2nsr> requires me to mod a file
04:05:31 <JohnTHaller> You mean by default, right? What specifically needs modding?
04:05:57 <vf2nsr> there are at least 6 entries in pref,js
04:06:04 <vf2nsr> that contain a var
04:06:13 <JohnTHaller> show me the pastebin
04:06:18 <vf2nsr> I need to read the origianl var and replace it in default var
04:06:35 <JohnTHaller> Is this affected as you move PCs or locations?
04:06:53 <vf2nsr> just first move from TB to new TB
04:07:18 <vf2nsr> I have it all documented in comments in the script I just sent you in im
04:07:21 <JohnTHaller> I fired up TBP, selected the calendar tab. CLosed it. Reopened and my calendar was still displayed.
04:07:43 <vf2nsr> correct but did you try opening it under a different profile?
04:07:57 <JohnTHaller> What do you mean?
04:07:57 <vf2nsr> it can be done
04:08:14 <vf2nsr> because you are creating a new profile in 2nd laucnh
04:08:30 <vf2nsr> the one with dummy tb
04:08:43 <JohnTHaller> Right. But that doesn't matter. If it works in TB, it works in 2nd profile.
04:08:43 <vf2nsr> it works here if I edit it in Notepad
04:08:48 <vf2nsr> NO
04:08:50 <vf2nsr> oops
04:09:05 <vf2nsr> lightening identifies the file with a string
04:09:11 <vf2nsr> different in each profile
04:09:15 <JohnTHaller> Ok, tell me your error and how to reproduce it. Lets start from there.
04:09:20 <vf2nsr> so I need to replicate 6 lines
04:09:32 <vf2nsr> did you look at pastebin yet?
04:09:37 <vf2nsr> it explains it
04:10:02 <JohnTHaller> No, it explains what you are trying to do technically without saying why or what problem it is trying to solve. Always start from the actual problem.
04:10:26 <vf2nsr> look at the part where I showed What needed changing
04:10:28 <JohnTHaller> So, tell me what to do with TB and TB 2nd profile installed to produce the issue you are trying to correct.
04:10:35 <vf2nsr> ok
04:10:43 <vf2nsr> you have second tb
04:10:52 <vf2nsr> make it so only lightning and no email
04:11:10 <JohnTHaller> Always helps to start from the problem. I've learned from experience. Lemme start a fresh install of each to be sure.
04:11:23 <vf2nsr> then copy out the calendar-data\local.sqlite
04:11:40 <vf2nsr> from tb over to 2nd tb
04:11:41 <JohnTHaller> why copy it out?
04:11:57 <vf2nsr> so I can replicate issue
04:12:05 <vf2nsr> My code will do it later
04:12:11 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, but there is no technical reason to need to move that file in the first place
04:12:41 <vf2nsr> yes in order to read it properly
04:12:58 <vf2nsr> OK skip the copy
04:13:11 <JohnTHaller> Are you trying to create a default blank calendar, is that it?
04:13:12 <vf2nsr> You asked me to repliocate the issue
04:13:22 <vf2nsr> but you won't let me explain
04:13:32 <JohnTHaller> Right, but what you are doing is causing an issue that I don't think you need to create in the first place.
04:13:32 <vf2nsr> I have that
04:13:42 <vf2nsr> ok
04:13:46 <vf2nsr> well to load lightrning
04:13:52 <vf2nsr> it creates files
04:14:01 <vf2nsr> including a default calendar
04:14:07 <vf2nsr> and pref.js file
04:14:40 <vf2nsr> if the data in pref.js is different from tb and tb2 then calendar will not read
04:15:08 <vf2nsr> so inorder to get it to read I need to tweak info in pref.js
04:15:23 <vf2nsr> the heck with it
04:15:29 <vf2nsr> this is way too frustrating
04:15:40 <vf2nsr> Skip whole conversation
04:15:43 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: Just take a step back. You get too personally involved. It's just code. Gimme a second.
04:15:45 <vf2nsr> I know what needs to be done
04:15:54 <vf2nsr> and I can do it manually
04:16:12 <vf2nsr> I just need to figure a way to do it with code
04:16:19 <vf2nsr> and everyone says it can not be done
04:16:42 <vf2nsr> everything else works I just need to tweak a file
04:16:45 <JohnTHaller> Just take a minute, man. It's not the end of the world. There may be an alternate way to do this.
04:17:18 <vf2nsr> which is what I been looking for all day and all I get is it can not be done
04:17:43 <vf2nsr> I think I explained what I needed fairly clearly in the comment
04:18:14 <vf2nsr> and I can make it work doing exactly those things if I edit the file manually
04:18:27 <vf2nsr> NSIS can do it for ini and cfg files?
04:18:43 <vf2nsr> so what confuses me is why not a js file?
04:19:07 <JohnTHaller> FOr starters, there are multiple non-unique strings, so you can't really attack that programatically with ease
04:19:25 <vf2nsr> ok
04:19:36 <vf2nsr> but basically I need to read 2 strings
04:19:54 <vf2nsr> and compare them and then change all instances of one string with the other one
04:20:02 <JohnTHaller> If multiple devs are saying you can't do something due to logical restraints, then they may be right. I have not looked at it yet. But again, I think you are attacking a problem you may be able to just go around.
04:20:17 <JohnTHaller> I've been working with Mozilla profiles for 8 years now, so just let me take a look at it.
04:20:31 <vf2nsr> whatever
04:20:58 <vf2nsr> I appreciate your help and know you are busy I will find a way to do it if even fo rmy own sanity and no one else
04:21:33 <vf2nsr> btw fyi LiOnAS in script is possible name short for Lightning on a stick
04:21:54 <vf2nsr> I will leave you be and read nsis manual
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05:12:04 <JohnTHaller> gnight all
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15:51:47 <Pyromaniac> yay it worked
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16:05:24 <Pyromaniac> hey Gizmokid2005 how can I make the bot say "Pyromaniac is a developer..."?
16:05:37 <Pyromaniac> At least when I enter the room
16:05:44 <Gizmokid2005> .def
16:05:44 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: Sorry, but I don't know you.
16:05:47 <Gizmokid2005> .def Pyromaniac
16:05:47 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: Sorry, but I don't know about Pyromaniac
16:06:05 <Pyromaniac> .def Pyromaniac is a developer
16:06:05 <GizmoBot> Pyromaniac: Def manipulation is only allowed in #gizmokid2005, #gizmokid2005-def
16:06:11 <Gizmokid2005> do ".def Pyromaniac <definition>" in #gizmokid2005
16:06:12 <Gizmokid2005> :)
16:06:19 <Pyromaniac> k thanks
16:06:30 <Pyromaniac> .join #gixmokid2005
16:08:40 <Pyromaniac> does that sound good?
16:09:06 <Pyromaniac> def Pyromaniac
16:09:11 <Pyromaniac> .def Pyromaniac
16:09:11 <GizmoBot> Pyromaniac is a developer at PortableApps.com, and has been a member for over 3 years. Check out his projects at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
16:12:08 <Pyromaniac> hey Gizmokid2005 How can I put a + sign in front of my name as well/
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17:35:18 <pa_3168> help!
17:35:18 <GizmoBot> pa_3168: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
17:36:13 <pa_3168> is there a portableapps.com version for android systems
17:36:17 <pa_3168> ???
17:39:23 <pa_3168> specifically for a mobile device with android gingerbread system
17:46:48 <Mir> what do you need
17:47:08 <Mir> if its running portable apps on the android... ot going to happen
17:47:12 <Mir> not
17:47:29 <Mir> for several reasons
17:47:35 <Mir> 1. android is linux
17:47:58 <Mir> 2. most android devices are on ARM or MIPS processors
17:48:26 <Mir> 3. wine only works on PowerPC and X86/X86_64 processors
17:49:42 <Mir> so if you want to run sar3th 's lates and most awesome portable app on your android tablet... you wont be able to (;-;)
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18:34:14 <GizmoBot> Pyromaniac is a developer at PortableApps.com, and has been a member for over 3 years. Check out his projects at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
18:37:50 <Pyromaniac> Hey Mir do you know how I can add voice to my username? That + sign thingy
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19:03:57 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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21:05:30 <pa_5323> hello?
21:05:58 <pa_5323> Can anyone help me update my version of portable apps?
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21:12:05 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
21:13:00 <GordCaswell> Pyromaniac: Talk to John or one of the other channel admins. They need to give you voice
21:13:18 <Pyromaniac> ah
21:13:33 <GordCaswell> Although it looks like you are voiced, in my client
21:15:13 <GordCaswell> Hth, be back later
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21:21:57 <Pyromaniac> oh hey, they just added it
21:22:02 <Pyromaniac> didn't even notice
21:35:42 <vf2nsr|away> Pyromaniac you had voice since I got here
21:36:20 <Pyromaniac> Looks like I got it at 12:02 today
21:40:28 <vf2nsr|away> although to be honest I really do not understand what it actually does give us?
21:43:26 <Pyromaniac> gives us status
21:43:30 <Pyromaniac> XD
21:45:14 <sar3th> i don't actually understand the criteria its based on :)
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21:57:48 <Pyromaniac> back in a moment...
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22:01:27 <vf2nsr|away> sar3th: I was told it denotes developers of official app?
22:01:56 <vf2nsr|away> let me rephrase developers of apps officially released
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22:29:03 <GizmoBot> Pyromaniac is a developer at PortableApps.com, and has been a member for over 3 years. Check out his projects at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
22:38:36 <vf2nsr|away> wb Pyromaniac
22:38:54 <vf2nsr|away> where your voice go?
22:47:36 <Pyromaniac> idk
22:50:24 <vf2nsr|away> wonder if it has anything to do with capitalization?
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23:02:14 <vf2nsr|away> wow gord fast he comes and goes
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23:15:03 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
23:18:50 <kAlug> vf2nsr: When did you got voiced?
23:19:04 <vf2nsr> about a year ago
23:19:23 <vf2nsr> whenever I got my first app officailly released
23:20:07 <vf2nsr> stil no idea what it really does other than status symbol
23:20:39 <vf2nsr> but then again same for forums still not sure what being a dev staus really does
23:20:44 <vf2nsr> status
23:21:58 <kAlug> I never realized you were voiced 'till now...
23:22:12 <vf2nsr> lol np
23:22:30 <vf2nsr> so what exactly does it do/mean?
23:22:34 <kAlug> As for the forums, I believe it's for folks with officially released apps (or backend devs, like me)
23:23:08 <vf2nsr> but other than the icon it deos no more than a regular user?
23:24:22 <kAlug> IIRC, it also gives you the power to edit the Development Test page directly
23:24:42 <vf2nsr> oh?
23:25:10 <vf2nsr> I have not heard that nor do I really even know what that is
23:27:20 <kAlug> http://portableapps.com/development/test
23:28:04 <vf2nsr> ah ok I see now tyvm
23:29:26 <kAlug> So, how you doing?
23:29:45 <vf2nsr> ok I guess
23:29:56 <vf2nsr> except for some early allergies
23:31:16 <vf2nsr> you?
23:32:26 <kAlug> Fine too. Thinking on buying a few paintings on DeviantArt.
23:32:51 <vf2nsr> sweet some nice work there
23:34:04 <kAlug> Indeed.
23:34:39 <kAlug> I have a library of images I got from there. In case something happens with them...
23:34:45 <vf2nsr> I should be 1`/4 th as talented as they are
23:37:51 <kAlug> Well, I am 1/(Grahams number) as talented as you should be.
23:38:12 <kAlug> "Graham's number is unimaginably larger than other well-known large numbers [...] Indeed, the observable universe is far too small to contain an ordinary digital representation of Graham's number"
23:38:12 <vf2nsr> me?
23:38:30 <vf2nsr> What you mean me talented?
23:39:17 <kAlug> If you are 1/4 as talented as them, and I am 1/... as talented as you...
23:40:01 <vf2nsr> No I menast I should be I am not even in same ballpark as them Heck I failed kidergarten art class
23:41:18 <kAlug> I think I can't even draw like this... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Serra_da_Capivara_-_Painting_7.JPG
23:42:15 <vf2nsr> I flunked out doing \0/ stick figures
23:43:44 *** kAlug is now known as kAlug|Away