IRC Log from 2012-03-26
00:12:38 <vf2nsr> gluxon: bbiaf
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00:16:31 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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00:28:15 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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00:29:07 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
00:29:30 <JWHough> ZachThibeau: you play hedewars much?
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00:29:51 <JWHough> *hedgewars
00:30:06 <JWHough> ...
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00:38:55 <JWHough> hey chris
00:39:04 <JWHough> can you give me voice ChrisMorgan ?
00:42:35 <JWHough> ty
00:42:54 <vf2nsr> way to go JWHough
00:43:08 <JWHough> :)
00:43:14 <vf2nsr> now if he can give you pyromaniac too lol
00:43:14 <JWHough> I can be very persuasive at times ;)
00:43:28 <JWHough> no, because I need to own it
00:43:41 <vf2nsr> I know was just kidding
00:43:49 <JWHough> ah
00:44:01 <JWHough> didn't notice the lol at the end
00:44:56 <vf2nsr> maybe you should rename yourself as the developer formerly known as Pyromaniac lol
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01:32:43 <JohnTHaller> hola
01:33:38 <ChrisMorgan> Greetings! Quite some time since I've been in here. Now we just wait for kAlug.
01:34:49 <JohnTHaller> how goes it ChrisMorgan?
01:35:15 <ChrisMorgan> Fine, though I've been doing assorted other things and not much PortableApps.com stuff for a couple of months.
01:35:26 <JohnTHaller> oh, and did you tell kalug you were going to be here? If not, he may not pop in.
01:35:43 <ChrisMorgan> I didn't.
01:36:24 <JohnTHaller> He may not be joining then. I just sent him an email.
01:36:31 <ChrisMorgan> OK.
01:37:29 <ChrisMorgan> Ever had a keyboard with a sticky Ctrl key, which occasionally when you use it remains on?
01:37:39 <JohnTHaller> I have. I bought a new one.
01:38:49 <ChrisMorgan> Well, this is on a Uni computer. I'll need to try and remember it when I next see the manager of these labs...
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01:43:15 <JohnTHaller> hola kAlug|Away
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01:43:31 <kAlug> hey JohnTHaller
01:43:32 <ChrisMorgan> What I think: release 2.2 which is 2.1.2 with: mutex instead of runtime data; execution from $PROGRAMFILES blocked entirely; UNC support if we don't run into issues with it.
01:45:03 <ChrisMorgan> How does that sound?
01:45:14 <JohnTHaller> and a PORTABLEAPPSPATH/PORTABLEAPPSPATHLAST if we can swing it, too, perhaps? Doesn't need another entry in the between sessions INI. Just one directory parent of PAL:PackagePartialDir
01:45:44 <JohnTHaller> Just for easy use within the launcher.ini for apps that call other apps to do some stuff.
01:45:49 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yes, we need a little bit of fixing there if we can.
01:46:14 <JohnTHaller> It can literally just be a one up from PAL:PackagePartialDir and PAL:LastPackagePartialDir
01:47:01 <ChrisMorgan> (That is %PAL:PortableAppsDir% and $PortableAppsDirectory at present, but without partial support.)
01:47:24 <JohnTHaller> Right. No partial support is necessary.
01:47:48 <JohnTHaller> I was just thinking more for how you track it by just using the paths you already deal with in code
01:47:51 <ChrisMorgan> (And without last support, too.)
01:47:59 <JohnTHaller> We need last.
01:48:10 <JohnTHaller> Whole point is to be able to update apps that point to other apps.
01:48:27 <JohnTHaller> Oh wait
01:48:34 <JohnTHaller> I'm remembering this all wrong.
01:48:50 <JohnTHaller> What we needed was a PortableAppsRoot. Two directories up from $EXEDIR.
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01:49:01 <eenu> hi
01:49:11 <ChrisMorgan> Hi, eenu! Can we help you with anything?
01:49:17 <JohnTHaller> kAlug and ChrisMorgan, I think we should move this to #portableapps-dev
01:49:25 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
01:49:57 <eenu> I was just wondering the best way to ensure all data is encrypted on a portable apps USB drive i want to make - but which is also easily accesible from any machine
01:52:59 <ChrisMorgan> eenu: you can't, really. Full-drive solutions like TrueCrypt and FreeOTFE require administrative privileges to install a driver which can be used to mount the volume. So without that, the best you can do is looking at the files and copying them in and out as required, but without mounting them to a drive letter, with a tool like FreeOTFE Explorer.
01:54:31 <eenu> so essentially, there is little point putting email etc on it as its going to be open to theft/loss and there are no barriers in place if the key is lost or stolen....
01:55:37 <ChrisMorgan> No, if you use FreeOTFE it will all be protected, but for using an app like Thunderbird you need administrative privileges so that you can mount the drive. Otherwise you can only view individual files (with the passphrase, of course).
01:59:40 <eenu> ok thanks
01:59:57 <JohnTHaller> The other option is to use a drive with hardware encryption.
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02:20:33 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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03:54:37 <JohnTHaller> Goodnight all
03:54:52 <vf2nsr> night JohnTHaller
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04:00:17 <vf2nsr> ChrisMorgan: BTW thanks for the help with that scripting mess up I had
04:00:42 <ChrisMorgan> You're welcome.
04:00:55 <vf2nsr> I honestly tried
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06:51:56 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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12:38:32 <FishForYou> hello, i want to know where i can download the portable version of Firefox_V10.0 --- because 10.0 is ESL (ExtendedSupportRelease).
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12:43:44 <TPFC-SYSTEM> FishForYou: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./Mozilla%20Firefox%20ESR%2C%20Portable%20Edition%2010.0.3/
12:44:05 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It is indeed hard to find.
12:46:20 <FishForYou> oh, thx.
12:47:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sure thing.
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14:34:45 <FishForYou> thx.
14:34:54 <FishForYou> bb.
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16:33:15 <pa_6876> hii
16:33:29 <pa_6876> nyone there
16:34:31 <pa_6876> please tell me how to backup all my data on my portable HDD
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21:27:34 <kAlug> hi JohnTHaller
21:28:19 <JohnTHaller> howdy
21:28:47 <kAlug> Working on PortableAppsBase as we speak.
21:28:51 <JohnTHaller> cool
21:29:23 <JohnTHaller> I'm working on the PA.c Installer updates. Also updating the platform installer.
21:31:28 <kAlug> I think I still don't get the use of it.
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21:32:07 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
21:32:25 <kAlug> hi vf2nsr
21:32:32 <vf2nsr> Hi kal
21:32:36 <vf2nsr> kalug
21:32:45 <JohnTHaller> kAlug: How do you mean?
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21:33:10 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: -dev
21:34:12 <kAlug> pa_5321: Do you need help?
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21:40:48 <vf2nsr> geez you scared them away kAlug
21:41:07 <kAlug> Indeed.
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22:02:02 <vf2nsr> gluxon: I sort of gave up in the TB Tray can not figure out where or how many places to find the auto select that I would need to disable
22:02:27 <pa_7343> Does anybody know why Thunderbird Portable 10.0.3 ESR isn´t in the sourceforge folders?
22:03:02 <vf2nsr> are you looking for the base app pa_7343
22:03:06 <vf2nsr> or portable one?
22:03:14 <pa_7343> the portable one.
22:03:31 <pa_7343> firefox portable 10.0.3 ESR is in the repositories
22:03:37 <pa_7343> thunderbird isn´t
22:03:45 <vf2nsr> hmm I was unaware that it was released yet
22:04:19 <pa_7343> they came out almost together I think
22:04:41 <vf2nsr> http://portableapps.com/node/19705 take a look
22:04:47 <vf2nsr> says built mirroring
22:05:11 <vf2nsr> which is why you can no tfind it
22:05:12 <JohnTHaller> Neither are 'released' yet.
22:05:38 <vf2nsr> ty JohnTHaller I di dnot think so just had to grab the link'
22:05:47 <pa_7343> Ok. thank you
22:05:49 <JohnTHaller> The build currently on SF will be replaced likely in the next day or two. They were held for the rebranding. From that point on, they will be 'released' officially and supported going forward.
22:06:29 <JohnTHaller> As they were technically 'new' apps, they were held rather than releasing a revision a week later: http://portableapps.com/node/19705
22:06:44 <JohnTHaller> Details here: http://portableapps.com/node/31623
22:11:49 <vf2nsr> guess I go back to my corner of my round room.....lol
22:13:16 <vf2nsr> 8-)
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22:26:34 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
22:27:22 <vf2nsr> Evening GordCaswell
22:27:30 <GordCaswell> Evening Patrick
22:28:16 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: Please undo what you did with the "New" comments (or limit it to the header).
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22:30:48 <JohnTHaller> we're experimenting
22:32:19 <PatrickPowell> Will have to turn off my styles to look it over I liked GordCaswell response and installed it....makes it easier for multiple new responses not all in th esame part of a comment
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22:38:21 <kAlug> Interesting. The pink seems to be strong when on the top of the page, and it fades when it reaches bottom.
22:38:57 <PatrickPowell> Just took a look without the styles thing I lik eit
22:39:39 <PatrickPowell> could always got patriotic mak eit pale blue then page could be red white and blue [snickering]
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23:16:01 <PatrickPowell> bbl
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