IRC Log from 2012-04-12

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00:44:21 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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01:46:59 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
01:47:08 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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02:02:12 <GizmoBot> Pyromaniac is a developer at PortableApps.com, and has been a member for over 3 years. Check out his projects at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
02:03:48 <Pyromaniac> so I figured out I can auth as JWHough but set my nick as Pyro and it'll still voice me. Nice
02:04:19 <ZachThibeau> hey Pyromaniac
02:04:25 <Pyromaniac> howdy do
02:04:32 <ZachThibeau> how's things?
02:04:46 <Pyromaniac> ok, I guess
02:04:53 <ZachThibeau> just ok?
02:04:55 <ZachThibeau> lol
02:05:00 <Pyromaniac> super busy but I don't wanna do anything
02:05:30 <Pyromaniac> got so much studying to do, homework, college applications I'm having issues with
02:05:42 <Pyromaniac> and I don't want to do anything :(
02:05:48 <Pyromaniac> gosh I'm so lazy
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02:06:32 <ZachThibeau> I just managed to get my desktop back, after moving and getting a job I was able to finally purchase a new monitor and bring the desktop to where I live now
02:06:41 <Pyromaniac> hi iTechNewsDaily
02:06:47 <iTechNewsDaily> Hello
02:07:01 <iTechNewsDaily> vf2nsr
02:07:01 <Pyromaniac> so I see you got issues with regshot, right?
02:07:07 <iTechNewsDaily> Yes
02:07:11 <Pyromaniac> he's |away
02:07:16 <iTechNewsDaily> Ah ok
02:07:22 <Pyromaniac> what dontcha get?
02:07:52 <iTechNewsDaily> Problem is that I can't do anything with it right now. I'm actually using the IRC website chat from a iPod touch
02:08:05 <Pyromaniac> lol
02:08:18 <Pyromaniac> ok, when will you be back on your oc
02:08:20 <Pyromaniac> *pc
02:08:54 <iTechNewsDaily> Tomorrow at any time I can get on. It's 10:00 at night for me right now. Not sure what time it is for you.
02:09:23 <Pyromaniac> 7
02:09:43 <Pyromaniac> ok, I'll be online around this time again. Perhaps an hour earlier
02:10:02 <iTechNewsDaily> I have a couple classes during my school day that I can get online and do some work. Not sure how my schools PC's are going to hadel me takeoff shots of the registry
02:10:08 <iTechNewsDaily> Probably will block it.
02:10:46 <iTechNewsDaily> I will try to bring in m own laptop to do some work, but I need rife it connected to the network.
02:10:52 <Pyromaniac> taking a shot doesn't change the computer at all. It's only looking at it. While I don't necessarily reccomend doing it there, I'm sure regshot would work
02:11:13 <iTechNewsDaily> If not then I'm going to have to fit his whenever to get home
02:11:20 <Pyromaniac> no need to rush
02:11:27 <iTechNewsDaily> I know
02:11:31 <iTechNewsDaily> Just saying
02:11:54 <Pyromaniac> aight
02:12:07 <iTechNewsDaily> What is the beret way to get into contact with you outside of IRC so I CBS let you know when I'm on?
02:12:13 <Pyromaniac> vf2nsr or anyone else here could probably help to if I'm not here
02:12:31 <Pyromaniac> pyromaniac@gmx.us
02:12:41 <Pyromaniac> Ima get so spammed now
02:12:46 <iTechNewsDaily> Is that your email?
02:12:49 <iTechNewsDaily> Lol true
02:12:51 <Pyromaniac> yap
02:13:20 <Pyromaniac> i dont mind though. Gives me something to do besides what I'm supposed to do ;)
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02:14:48 <Pyromaniac> hello clone of iTechNewsDaily
02:14:53 <iTechNewsDaily_> iPod app crash....
02:15:01 <Pyromaniac> :P figured something like that
02:15:06 <iTechNewsDaily_> ???
02:15:16 <iTechNewsDaily_> Lol
02:15:34 <iTechNewsDaily_> So by any chance do you have a Xfire?
02:15:55 <Pyromaniac> I think I made an account way back when I considered making Xfire Portable myself
02:15:55 <iTechNewsDaily_> Omg wow that's cool I'm signed on 2 times as the same person!
02:16:02 <Pyromaniac> but I forgot what it was
02:16:08 <iTechNewsDaily_> Lol. And I beat you do it!
02:16:25 <iTechNewsDaily_> Now I got it covered
02:16:47 <Pyromaniac> yeah, it's because the IRC thingy will keep pinging you for 248 seconds or something, and if you don't ping back, it kicks you
02:16:58 <Pyromaniac> wait a minute more and it'll say you left
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02:17:11 <Pyromaniac> I thought about doing it about a year ago
02:17:17 <Pyromaniac> see?^^^
02:17:18 <iTechNewsDaily_> Omg.... The screen is glitching. I can't see anything past when you said "but I forgot"
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02:17:34 <Pyromaniac> ...
02:18:05 <Pyromaniac> good to see you got a job and a computer and a place to live ZachThibeau :P
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02:18:48 <iTechNewsDaily> Back
02:18:58 <iTechNewsDaily> And fixed
02:19:26 <iTechNewsDaily> Surprised in not singed in 3 times now
02:19:46 <iTechNewsDaily> So did you say anything past "but I forgott"?
02:19:54 <Pyromaniac> yeah, it's because the IRC thingy will keep pinging you for 248 seconds or something, and if you don't ping back, it kicks you
02:19:59 <Pyromaniac> wait a minute more and it'll say you left
02:20:05 <iTechNewsDaily> I couldn't see anything past that' message. Everything was cut off
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02:20:16 <Pyromaniac> Omg.... The screen is glitching. I can't see anything past when you said "but I forgot"
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02:20:27 <Pyromaniac> that's it
02:20:40 <iTechNewsDaily> Lol
02:20:42 <Pyromaniac> here's the log
02:20:43 <Pyromaniac> http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/2012-04-12.txt
02:20:56 <iTechNewsDaily> K
02:21:16 <iTechNewsDaily> I will try to get on sometime tomorrow.
02:21:33 <iTechNewsDaily> Until then, c ya later.
02:21:42 <Pyromaniac> k, also I suggest making the title of Xfire Portable to "Xfire Potable 1.148 Dev Test 2"
02:21:54 <Pyromaniac> no caps, as it's kinda outstanding
02:22:06 <Pyromaniac> like your yelling online, almost :P
02:22:28 <iTechNewsDaily> ALL CAPS RAGE!!!!!!!
02:22:38 <iTechNewsDaily> I will go back and change it tomorrow.
02:22:41 <Pyromaniac> k
02:22:46 <iTechNewsDaily> C ya
02:22:47 <Pyromaniac> lata
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02:49:44 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
02:55:06 <GordCaswell> Ok, now I'm tired: http://portableapps.com/node/19705#comment-193069
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03:06:51 <Pyromaniac> just now GordCaswell ?
03:07:16 <Pyromaniac> i'd be done at fre:ac :P
03:07:23 <GordCaswell> Just from the past two days of updating apps to 3.0
03:07:25 <GordCaswell> lol
03:07:39 <GordCaswell> XnView was a pain
03:07:53 <GordCaswell> 187 extensions to copy over
03:08:59 <GordCaswell> fre:ac by comparison was only 20 ;)
03:09:03 <PatrickPowell> Pyromaniac: thanks for helping that guy who was looking for me
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03:13:31 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
03:13:49 <GordCaswell> welcome back, vf2nsr
03:13:58 <vf2nsr> ty closed wrong window again
03:14:13 <vf2nsr> was working on amarok and hit wrong X
03:16:46 <GordCaswell> Has anybody used the Calligra Suite, either on Linux Windows?
03:17:05 <vf2nsr> nope
03:18:23 <GordCaswell> It's KDE's office suite, they've just released a major update to it, but the Windows binary isn't available yet. Once it is, I'm goin to look at packaging it for us...it looks pretty solid.
03:18:40 <vf2nsr> nice
03:18:48 <GordCaswell> yup
03:18:59 <vf2nsr> Hope yyou have better luck with it than I am with amarok
03:19:14 <vf2nsr> although I am making progress day by day lol
03:20:24 <vf2nsr> roght now I need to write some custom code for installer then think it will be solid enough fo rme to try to figure out how to get launcher to do what the bat does
03:21:37 <vf2nsr> brb grabbing soda
03:23:48 <vf2nsr> back
03:24:08 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: does that a portab le version or will it be from scratch?
03:24:32 <GordCaswell> no, it'll from the normal, installed version.
03:25:44 <vf2nsr> hmmm I may want to chat about that sometime as this amarok is actually one version behind the base app so maybe I can get a few ideas from ya
03:39:41 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: what version of KDE does it use?
03:40:10 <GordCaswell> No idea. I haven't looked at it at all, just got the news release in my rss feed earlier.
03:40:24 <vf2nsr> ah ok
04:12:24 <vf2nsr> sweet looks like I actually wrote a custom code that works and did not even need help A milestone for me lol
04:21:07 <vf2nsr> Oops I think I just found a bug in the new installer
04:23:18 <Pyromaniac> what?
04:24:18 <vf2nsr> hang on I trying again BUT I ran installer then checked box to launch the app it launched app and also brought up the installer box again I am running another test though to check
04:24:25 <vf2nsr> in case it was a fat fingers issue
04:26:11 <vf2nsr> ok did not happen this time but also noted no splash screen when launched
04:26:20 <vf2nsr> so that is twice no splash
04:26:35 <vf2nsr> not sure why it hiccuped before on the installer though?
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04:28:12 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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04:28:31 <Pyromaniac> My router reset again
04:28:43 <Pyromaniac> 8th time now
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04:41:13 <vf2nsr> how you do that GordCaswell
04:41:45 <vf2nsr> you never left room but magically come back?
04:42:07 <vf2nsr> oops now I see
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04:42:09 <vf2nsr> 2 of ya
04:46:56 <vf2nsr> you really here GordCaswell_
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04:50:37 <GordCaswell> yeah
04:50:48 <GordCaswell> lalala
04:51:01 <GordCaswell> vf2nsr: I'm a genius
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04:51:03 <vf2nsr> wow you good was even seein gdouble for a while lol
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04:51:33 <Pyromaniac> vf2nsr: whoa was Gord just here?
04:51:45 <vf2nsr> lol
04:52:21 <vf2nsr> not nice to play with fire lol
04:52:42 <Pyromaniac> That's how I roll
04:53:04 <vf2nsr> so you kidnapped Gord did ya?
04:53:09 <vf2nsr> holding him for ransom?
04:54:54 <Pyromaniac> Yap.
04:55:21 <Pyromaniac> My demands are that all my development tests must be made official release before he's goin anywhere
04:55:39 <vf2nsr> you as he or you as you?
04:55:47 <Pyromaniac> yes
04:57:31 <vf2nsr> oh well guess you can keep him for a while hop eyou can afford him he loves to eat lol
04:59:15 <Pyromaniac> How's this for overcomplicating a sentence as much as possible:
04:59:17 <Pyromaniac> My article relates to the concept in that it discusses the recent events that UPS made a decision to create a new route that would allow for a better, more cost-efficient and time-saving service to deal with trade between the United States and Mexico.
05:02:56 <vf2nsr> clear as mud it is
05:05:43 <Pyromaniac> I love economics but I hate writing essays about it
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05:52:52 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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07:12:48 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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08:49:49 <rickly> Hi any and all. Just stopped by to complain about the delay in updating the portableapps Opera. Version 1162 build 1347 (final) has been out for about 3 weeks and I keep wondering when the portableapps version will be released. Maybe or John T. is on vacation (or other wise occupied) ;-) (the new version fixes a couple of bugs that affect me - so I am anxious)
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09:04:09 <kAlug> rickly: Updates are slowly coming through. Give John a few days.
09:07:36 <rickly> yea I figured that, but I also figured it would not hurt to bug anyone about it (:
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10:07:20 <meb> morning, hows Enggoi ng?
10:07:31 <meb> neone around?
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11:19:05 <Guest33194> anyone around who knows pidgin?
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12:41:30 <pa_1880> Hi
12:43:26 <pa_1880> Can anybody tell me where can I download PortableApps.com Platform Source Code?
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13:12:14 <m3bX> morning, hows it going?
13:12:20 <m3bX> anyone around?
13:15:22 <TPFC-SYSTEM> m3bX: At least I am online.
13:15:27 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Currently reading a blog post.
13:32:54 <m3bX> cool
13:33:28 <m3bX> too questions; why does the newest vlc have so many problems crashing; secondly pidgin quits on startup...
13:33:32 <m3bX> any clue?
13:35:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hmm, I don't use either of them actively.
13:35:43 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Do the non-portable versions of VLC and Pidgin crash too?
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13:47:51 <m3bX> cool; besides portableapps.com launcher; anyone cool ones that can be modifies that check for updates?
13:49:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I don't understand your question. :-?
13:51:26 <m3bX> well rockect dock's cool and so is launchy...
13:51:45 <m3bX> but I'm wondering about Windowspenback; or cody sage....
13:52:14 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Oh, you're looking for launchers such as PortableApps.com *Platform*.
13:52:49 <TPFC-SYSTEM> There are a lot of launchers: http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?sc=116
13:53:09 <m3bX> ya something that self updates too... lol
13:53:17 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I don't know which of them "check for updates", though. Likely not many.
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14:51:41 <Gizmokid2005> I figured as much
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16:02:52 <iTechNewsDaily> Hey Guys
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16:05:32 <iTechNewsDaily> Who here is good with RegShot?
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16:28:27 <JUST_ME> hello
16:28:35 <JUST_ME> anybody here ?
16:28:42 <JUST_ME> i need help :(
16:31:20 <Mir> ( ´・‿-) ~ ♥
16:31:52 <Mir> protip... dont ask ask
16:31:58 <Mir> ask the question
16:33:09 <Mir> then your question might get answered... patience is also a virtue as things are not immediate or fast on IRC due to everyone being in different parts of the world
16:33:19 * Mir lurks off to calculus
16:40:28 <JUST_ME> ok
16:41:53 <JUST_ME> while i'm running "skype" there's msg pops up say's ( ERROR: Sendrequest error )
16:42:17 <JUST_ME> so it stops installing
16:42:30 <JUST_ME> plz i need the portable skype
16:42:32 <JUST_ME> :(
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17:31:50 <pa_7774> Just wanted to let you know that under no conditions, even under re-install will Libre Office 3.5.0 work in Portable Apps. The direct download from Libre Office to the desktop will work on any computer, but the Portable Apps version refuses to launch even after a re-install.
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18:11:55 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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21:23:10 <GizmoBot> PatrickPowell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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21:51:37 <m3b81> afternoon guys
21:52:21 <gluxon> m3b81: Hello
21:53:21 <m3b81> hey i'm having problems w/piding all the sudden; and then vlc for about two weeks now...
21:53:39 <m3b81> and i have a couple of questions on software u could recommend
21:54:19 <m3b81> i guess; first of all how can i re-install pidgin w/out loosing my theme; plugins just backup .purple?
21:55:04 <gluxon> Pidgin Portable can be installed just by running the installer over the current installation.
21:55:21 <m3b81> Sweet easy enuff
21:55:24 <gluxon> Yep.
21:55:35 <m3b81> vlc gets stuck; freezeds and quits...
21:56:38 <gluxon> Yeah, our PortableApps.com Installer detects when you've selected a folder with the same app already installed, and upgrades it instead. Upgrade as in "reinstall while preserving settings"
21:57:31 <gluxon> m3b81: Does vlc do this on a clean install? As in first launch without tweaking settings?
22:03:56 <m3b81> i can do a clean install; every setting I can reset...
22:04:56 <gluxon> Does it crash/freeze/quit on a clean install?
22:08:52 <m3b81> i haven't tried yet one sec
22:09:38 <m3b81> + could u recommend a good registry cleaning program...
22:12:18 <gluxon> Have you tried CCleaner?
22:13:29 <m3b81> ya; I'd like something tighter...
22:13:58 <gluxon> Tighter?
22:16:35 <m3b81> more precise
22:17:35 <m3b81> or would you happen to have a list off hand of some portable app sites...
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22:17:50 <pa_3859> help
22:17:50 <GizmoBot> pa_3859: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
22:18:07 <gluxon> m3b81: I don't know any registry cleaning apps other than CCleaner that's portable.
22:18:22 <gluxon> pa_3859: What's your question?
22:18:52 <pa_3859> \i have a software on cd. Can i turn that into a portable app to use & run directly off of a flash drive?
22:19:07 <pa_3859> i don't want to have to install it on a computer that isn't mine
22:19:13 <gluxon> m3b81: http://www.pendriveapps.com/ http://www.winpenpack.com/en/news.php http://www.portablefreeware.com/
22:19:49 <gluxon> m3b81: I can not guarantee that any of those follow the official PortableApps.com Format specification and do not leave personal files behind.
22:20:06 <gluxon> pa_3859: It depends on the software.
22:20:33 <gluxon> pa_3859: What's the name of the software?
22:20:40 <pa_3859> SESAP
22:21:06 <pa_3859> it's a question based software that i purchased in cd format
22:21:51 <pa_3859> i've looked trough your apps but i don't see it there...not that i expected to. can i convert it on my own to work like portable apps?
22:21:53 <gluxon> pa_3859: I'm sorry, it's a payware application and I can't find out more information about it due to that.
22:22:12 <pa_3859> what does that mean? payware?
22:22:27 <gluxon> Software requiring payment
22:22:44 <gluxon> Or commercial software, which is the official term.
22:23:22 <pa_3859> so even though i paid for it, those can not be converted?
22:24:25 <gluxon> pa_3859: Well, creating a PortableApp isn't really about converting. It's more about looking at where your program stores its data and required external files, then creating a PortableApps.com Launcher from that information.
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22:25:57 <gluxon> There is a good guide to doing this, but it's a bit dated and to be honest, most users end up deciding that they do not have the time required to make their favorite app portable.
22:25:58 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/node/14868
22:26:28 <pa_3859> can i create a launcher from this cd to place/run entirely off of a flash drive?
22:26:36 <pa_3859> postable apps launcher
22:27:29 <gluxon> pa_3859: It depends on whether or not the app has external dependencies that need to be linked.
22:28:41 <pa_3859> how can i figure that out? i've made iso images of the cd, placed on my flash, but when i tried to run from the usb, the computer inevitably asks for the cd
22:30:13 <gluxon> pa_3859: If the program installs to the location it should (C:\Program Files) you can try to copy it out, and place the application folder on your flash drive.
22:31:24 <gluxon> That *might* succeed in allowing you to run the application from your flash drive, but settings will not be carried upon removal of the USB.
22:32:03 <gluxon> *might*, if the application does not require a dependency.
22:32:38 <pa_3859> ok. i'll try that.
22:32:51 <pa_3859> dependency on?...
22:33:20 <gluxon> A DLL, .NET, Java
22:36:55 <pa_3859> oh boy! so all in all, this may not be possible. is there no one program that can bundle this up & make it work?
22:38:22 <gluxon> pa_3859: Correct, and I don't know the answer to your second question. All I can say is the possibility is low due to the lack of popular usage on SECAPS.
22:38:40 <gluxon> *SESAP
22:38:43 <pa_3859> ok. thanks
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23:12:55 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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