IRC Log from 2012-04-24

00:01:23 <ZachThibeau> hmm blast from the past again, listening to steve lamerton talk in the 2010 fosdem on youtube currently
00:05:34 <ZachThibeau> hmm wonder where fosdem 2013 going to be held at
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01:19:33 <Aerok> >>> reversed('!dlrow olleh')
01:19:58 <ZachThibeau> ok
01:30:57 <Aerok> hi ZachThibeau
01:31:09 <ZachThibeau> hey Aerok
01:34:43 <Aerok> how ya doing?
01:37:43 <ZachThibeau> not much
01:37:53 <ZachThibeau> just feeling nastalgic
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03:35:59 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen gordcaswell around.
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09:11:23 <pa_9880> hi! can anyone download openoffice portable app? It always fails for me...
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12:53:25 <ZachThibeau> morning everyone
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13:10:45 <ZachThibeau> hey TPFC-SYSTEM
13:10:55 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi ZachThibeau
13:11:41 <ZachThibeau> just working on a new test release of PChat finally after so long not being able to do anything
13:12:05 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Nice. :)
13:12:23 <ZachThibeau> yup
13:12:42 <ZachThibeau> had so many changes that I bumped up to 1.5 for this test
13:30:54 <ZachThibeau> just uploading current code to mercurial and then pulling the tip to zip up and then I'll post my test release
13:34:32 <ZachThibeau> added support for upnp dcc but it's disabled by default at least till 2.0
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13:55:20 <ZachThibeau> http://portableapps.com/node/31950 PChat 1.5 Pre-release 1 available for testign
13:55:23 <ZachThibeau> **testing
13:55:54 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Well done. :)
13:56:28 <ZachThibeau> just hope it works out
14:07:24 <ZachThibeau> once base features test out perfectly I'll add the spell check dictionaries to the mix :P
14:07:33 <ZachThibeau> and yes I did say spell check
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14:17:20 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
14:17:35 <ZachThibeau> hey vf2nsr
14:18:21 <vf2nsr> ZachThibeau: you here?
14:18:52 <ZachThibeau> I wouldn't be if I didn't say hey vf2nsr
14:19:08 <vf2nsr> ok got a question about your beta
14:19:15 <ZachThibeau> fire away
14:19:42 <vf2nsr> ok on everyrun I get error message about not being able to access a file in data or it does not exist is that normal?
14:20:03 <vf2nsr> or better yet you want me to post the error for you?
14:20:08 <ZachThibeau> yeah that would be nice
14:20:27 <vf2nsr> ok wan tit in im or pastebin
14:20:34 <vf2nsr> real short on efrom program
14:20:54 <ZachThibeau> kk
14:21:09 <ZachThibeau> I think I know what it is xD
14:21:31 <vf2nsr> I never used your program before
14:21:41 <vf2nsr> also the is Pre release?
14:21:44 <ZachThibeau> yeah that's a plugin conf for sasl authentication
14:21:50 <ZachThibeau> yes a pre-release test
14:22:15 <vf2nsr> ok cuase it completely removed old install and no where once downloaded does it mention pre release
14:22:29 <vf2nsr> ok so that is ok message then?
14:22:34 <ZachThibeau> it's not created at all as the user has to create it if they want to use sasl authentication on supported irc servers
14:22:59 <vf2nsr> ok tyvm not that familiar with irc chat
14:23:01 <vf2nsr> :)
14:23:49 <ZachThibeau> and yeah I was lazy in naming it a Pre-Release in the installer image
14:23:57 <vf2nsr> np
14:24:24 <vf2nsr> figured before I made a fool of self on forum would check with you here lol
14:24:36 <ZachThibeau> but at least I got to do some coding etc
14:25:36 <vf2nsr> ok well bbl maybe even on PChat
14:25:37 <vf2nsr> ty
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22:09:14 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
22:09:21 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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22:27:23 <ZachThibeau> hey vf2nsr
22:27:41 <vf2nsr> Hey ZachThibeau
22:27:56 <vf2nsr> finally figured how to log on with PChat :)
22:28:01 <ZachThibeau> lol ok
22:28:08 <ZachThibeau> I just got back home from work
22:28:24 <vf2nsr> well ya been doin gother things myself as well lol
22:28:35 <ZachThibeau> normally I'm there till later but I had an issue at work where the phone dialer system died on us
22:28:48 <vf2nsr> rut roh
22:28:53 <ZachThibeau> yeah
22:28:58 <ZachThibeau> lost some hours at work as a result
22:29:48 <ZachThibeau> anyways the main part of this test is stability
22:29:56 <ZachThibeau> for PChat that is
22:30:40 <vf2nsr> so far so good thought would check it out for you...I get sort of stuck Been using Pidgin since was the first one I tried
22:30:53 <ZachThibeau> if it's stable then I can keep with gtk 2.24.10 and then I can go and do the spell check test
22:30:57 <vf2nsr> And just never tried anything else
22:32:25 <ZachThibeau> I think I only truely have one outstanding bug and it's not a program bug but more of a pal thing
22:32:41 <ZachThibeau> mainly editing pchat.conf to change the dcc download dir
22:33:11 <vf2nsr> ahh
22:33:36 <ZachThibeau> for a while though I had to switch to an older version of gtk 2.16 because 2.24 was unstable
22:33:42 <ZachThibeau> revision 10 seems stable so far
22:34:20 <vf2nsr> looks like it would be an ini write?
22:35:16 <ZachThibeau> it's ini style yeah even though it's a conf file
22:35:36 <vf2nsr> I have that in REdnotebook as I recall
22:35:40 <ZachThibeau> ini style to a certain degree
22:35:41 <vf2nsr> with a fonts conf
22:36:05 <ZachThibeau> doesn't have [nameing] convention
22:36:17 <ZachThibeau> just has the settings as is
22:36:58 <vf2nsr> yup I looking at my launcher and that is how I handles it as an ini file
22:37:10 <vf2nsr> to change drive letter and update them
22:37:47 <vf2nsr> that is how I snuck around the fontconfig slowness of the rescan'
22:38:04 <ZachThibeau> I tried something but my knowledge of pal is limited, I just know enough to get things going
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22:38:36 <vf2nsr> Well I had some help of john and Gord as well
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22:39:24 <vf2nsr> editted the original with notepadd ++ then just handled it with file write
22:39:35 <ZachThibeau> yeah I'm going to wait for gord since he has a handle on that
22:39:58 <vf2nsr> yup he is good
22:40:13 <vf2nsr> Take alook at my dev if you wan tmight give you idea?
22:42:05 <ZachThibeau> nah, I got some stuff to do, I need to build my debian package and upload my windows installer for PChat 1.5
22:42:16 <vf2nsr> looks like you can edit that to download to th e PChat folder maybe even create a download directory
22:42:22 <vf2nsr> OK NP
22:42:41 <vf2nsr> I am not great but holler if you need help lol
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22:48:52 <vf2nsr|afk> bbiaf
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22:57:20 <ZachThibeau> wb vf2nsr
22:57:38 <vf2nsr> ty had to load up a few other things lol
22:57:44 <ZachThibeau> lol ok
22:57:50 <vf2nsr> also wanted to look at the conf file for pchat
22:57:55 <vf2nsr> so closed that to look
22:58:00 <ZachThibeau> I'm building my debian package for PChat
22:58:22 <vf2nsr> cool
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22:59:37 <vf2nsr> that was weird
23:00:02 <vf2nsr> Got booted and then reconnected
23:00:10 <ZachThibeau> odd
23:00:25 <vf2nsr> (18:58:50) The account has disconnected and you are no longer in this chat. You will be automatically rejoined in the chat when the account reconnects.
23:00:33 <vf2nsr> that was message I got
23:04:21 <ZachThibeau> that's new
23:04:42 <vf2nsr> not sur eif it was freenode or what?
23:09:07 <ZachThibeau> dang I need to reset my gpg key, forgot to back it up
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23:11:32 <vf2nsr> ZachThibeau: you mind if I play with that conf on my end until you and Gord get it to work?
23:20:05 <ZachThibeau> sure
23:21:54 <vf2nsr> is there supposed to be a designated save location byt the program or is it ok to put it somewhere else
23:23:40 <ZachThibeau> well for the portableapps version I would prefer to the documents folder of the platform
23:23:54 <vf2nsr> ok can do that is what I figured
23:23:59 <vf2nsr> I play fgor a bit lol
23:30:28 <vf2nsr> OK I see one issue with defaulting it to PA Documents
23:30:40 <vf2nsr> what if program not run from PA Platform
23:31:04 <vf2nsr> how about a directory in PCHAT called Downloads?
23:34:52 <ZachThibeau> no good
23:35:06 <vf2nsr> ok how about Data\downloads
23:35:07 <ZachThibeau> I'm going by John's conventions in terms of backup
23:35:29 <vf2nsr> that way will not get lost on updates
23:35:42 <vf2nsr> because if there is no Platform then there is no Documents folder
23:36:07 <ZachThibeau> downloads etc are not to be backed up unless specified by the end user thus should be the documents folder
23:36:30 <vf2nsr> I understand bu twhat happens to a user who is not using platform?
23:37:02 <ZachThibeau> I think I would have to ask John's opinion on that
23:37:30 <vf2nsr> I mean it is easy to default to different location but the issue becomes it needs to work universally
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23:37:48 <vf2nsr> it would be safe to assume if it is installed at least the PCHat dir exists
23:37:58 <ZachThibeau> hey Gord
23:37:59 <vf2nsr> Hey gord just the perso n we need lol
23:38:55 <GordCaswell> Hey zach, Patrick. Just popping on to say I'll be back probably in 1 1/2 hrs, for the rest of the evening
23:38:58 <ZachThibeau> GordCaswell: just discussing how to redirect the downloads from dcc transfers in PChat, I suggest the PortableApps.com platform documents since downloads in the data folder would not be good
23:39:07 <ZachThibeau> oh ok
23:39:25 <vf2nsr> But my concern is that if pchat not running from Platform folder does not exist
23:39:53 <vf2nsr> so was thinking of it going to PCHAT dir
23:40:07 <vf2nsr> eother in downloads dir or data\downloads?
23:40:11 <GordCaswell> I've got something that should work, let ya know when I'm back. On the iPhone atm
23:40:19 <vf2nsr> ok
23:40:33 <ZachThibeau> I like stuff that works :D
23:40:36 <ZachThibeau> lol
23:40:38 <vf2nsr> me too
23:40:52 <vf2nsr> too bad lol just rewrote it to make it work in dataq lmao
23:41:01 <ZachThibeau> sure GordCaswell and talk to you later
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23:41:22 <vf2nsr> ok let me know how it works I need to head off to another chat program lol
23:41:28 <ZachThibeau> sure
23:41:31 <vf2nsr> bbiab
23:41:35 <ZachThibeau> post your comments in the forum
23:41:48 <vf2nsr> well only after you guys decide
23:42:13 <vf2nsr> I agree it needs to be somewehre and I see Johns point just concerned about user who not using platform
23:42:19 <ZachThibeau> either way in terms of stability etc
23:42:26 <ZachThibeau> some comments there would be nice
23:42:26 <vf2nsr> correct
23:42:31 <vf2nsr> ok will do
23:42:33 <vf2nsr> lol
23:42:36 <ZachThibeau> help get the ball rolling
23:42:36 <vf2nsr> ttyl
23:42:37 <ZachThibeau> :P
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23:42:43 <ZachThibeau> ttyl
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