IRC Log from 2012-05-11
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00:29:07 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
00:29:17 <vf2nsr> JOhn you free?
00:29:21 <JohnTHaller> hola
00:29:29 <JohnTHaller> working on Audacity, what;s up?
00:29:34 <vf2nsr> quick question not sure if bug or by design
00:29:38 <JohnTHaller> shoot
00:29:47 <vf2nsr> installed java via app update
00:30:06 <vf2nsr> opened window to install it in online.paf.exe/bin
00:30:12 <vf2nsr> that seemed odd to me?
00:30:24 <vf2nsr> did not point to pa driove or commonfiles etc
00:30:57 <vf2nsr> I think I pointed it to correct locale?
00:31:24 <vf2nsr> but thought that was a weird default instrall locale?
00:32:33 <vf2nsr> want me to try and redo and get screen shot?
00:32:58 <JohnTHaller> I can see it
00:33:06 <vf2nsr> BTW Downloading it ala carte
00:33:11 <vf2nsr> it works correctly
00:33:26 <JohnTHaller> It's broken in the PA.c Installer. I need to fix it.
00:33:33 <vf2nsr> ok was not sure if bug or by design so thought would pop in and ask
00:33:55 <vf2nsr> tyvm
00:34:01 <JohnTHaller> thanks
00:34:23 <vf2nsr> np
00:34:42 <vf2nsr> just trying to help and also avoid clutter in forums
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01:27:53 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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01:33:09 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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01:33:23 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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06:54:56 <bluebell_rose> hihi
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08:25:49 <pa_8620> Hi, I have a problem with the settings: Whatever I change in the options for the PortableApps platform is lost after next reboot. Do I do anything wrong? Do I have to save settings somehow?
08:31:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> pa_8620: The Platform saves its settings in PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data\PortableAppsMenu.ini.
08:32:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Check if the file is writable (e.g. open it in Notepad and try to edit it).
09:38:00 <pa_8620> yes, its writable. I tried something else: If I e.g. rename an app, this is updated in the ini file, but if I change any settings in the options dialog it is not written (i.e. ini file is not updated).
09:38:34 <pa_8620> Even if I change the settings, and then rename an app, the ini file is written but only the "rename" operation is reflected in the ini file
09:39:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Very odd. Sounds like a bug. :(
09:42:42 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It seems no one has reported such a problem.
09:43:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> My suggestion is to edit the INI file manually. I don't have any other ideas. :(
09:46:09 <pa_8620> Oh, now I changed settings, and afterwards pressed the "Close" button. This leads to a newly saved ini file with all changes! After reopening the platform all changes are there. Strange.
09:47:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Indeed.
09:47:08 <TPFC-SYSTEM> At least it works now? :)
09:47:17 <pa_8620> yes ;-)
09:47:45 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Great. :)
09:48:30 <pa_8620> bye
09:49:16 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Cheers!
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15:23:51 <timeless2> hey everyone
15:24:04 <timeless2> can anyone advise if they have portable utorrent ver 2.x ?
15:24:11 <timeless2> i don't favor ver 3.x
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15:47:12 <pa_4184> I just installed the latest ver of portable app suite and it was flagged as the ADW_KRADARE spyware.
15:47:27 <pa_4184> Is this real or a false positive.
15:49:43 <pa_4184> help!
15:49:43 <GizmoBot> pa_4184: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
15:50:00 <pa_4184> I just installed the latest ver of portable app suite and it was flagged as the ADW_KRADARE spyware. Is this real or a false positive.
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16:12:09 <timeless2> hello, anyone?
16:22:23 <timeless2> nevermind
16:22:24 <timeless2> found here
16:22:24 <timeless2> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/uTorrent%20Portable/
16:22:26 <timeless2> thanks
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16:34:34 <kronophskiy> Hi everybody
16:34:40 <kronophskiy> I got some suggestions
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16:42:39 <TonyS> Problems with download by user with several months experience - Utilities ->DShutdown
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16:43:30 <TonySanM> Problems with download by user with several months experience - Utilities ->DShutdown
16:45:03 <TonySanM> help Problems with download by user with several months experience - Utilities ->DShutdown
16:46:06 <kronophskiy> TonySanM: using the platform or the site?
16:46:23 <TonySanM> Err message follows
16:46:54 <TonySanM> "not valid and cannot be installed " after a few seconds of download
16:47:08 <TonySanM> Platfoem Under Windows&
16:47:15 <TonySanM> &=7
16:47:38 <TonySanM> I have jpg file of error message ...
16:53:06 <TonySanM> kronophskiy
16:58:35 <TonySanM> kronophskiy: Platform Under Windows7
16:59:15 <TonySanM> kronophskiy: Error message = "not valid and cannot be installed " after a few seconds of download
17:00:00 <TonySanM> kronophskiy: I have jpg file of error message ... file was 1.12KB
17:00:50 <TonySanM> kronophskiy: Please confirm receipt of my problem data :-)
17:08:46 <TonySanM> kronophskiy: I suspect corrupted file. Solution, for me would be to have correct file installed.
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19:33:27 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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21:35:06 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: Get a chance to try Geany? I have a quick fix for the temp files issue (just going to add a contained TEMP like we do for other apps).
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21:50:46 <JAWS> hi, congrats on all the releases in the past few days!
21:53:48 <JAWS> I was wondering if it is possible for apps such as AssaultCube, to have a second "profile" so as to use one profile on an old PC with the graphics settings on low and another profile for the higher end PCs
21:54:46 <JohnTHaller> You'd need to ask the specific devs of those online. As a temporary workaround, you can just rename Data to DataNew and then create a fresh profile for an old PC as Data. And rename them back and forth.
21:56:30 <JAWS> evertime I want to switch or would it be easier to copy the whole app and rename that folder?
21:59:36 <JohnTHaller> You could do that, too. It would be easier if you don't mind losing the space. And you'll need to manually update that second copy of the app for now. Be sure to tile the second copy as AssaultCubePortable_Copy_2 as we'll be supporting that in the future for automatic upgrades in the platform.
22:01:18 <JAWS> ok, that sounds good
22:01:26 <JAWS> Thanks for the help! ;)
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22:02:53 <Simeon> hi all
22:03:27 <JAWS> that will work the same for AC Reloaded (except for the automatic updates, unless it becomes official)?
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22:07:49 <Simeon> Oh, John is here.
22:08:28 <JAWS> Thanks, for the help everyone. Keep up the great work everyone! :) See ya!
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22:09:25 <JohnTHaller> howdy
22:11:13 <Simeon> congrats on your SNM appearance :)
22:11:31 <Simeon> and thanks for updating my app!
22:11:31 <JohnTHaller> heh. you watched the show eh?
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22:11:45 <JohnTHaller> You're welcome. I'm posting LBreakout2 as you in a few minutes.
22:12:06 <Simeon> yes. added the RSS feed last time you mentioned it and never regretted it :)
22:12:42 <JohnTHaller> Yeah? You like the SNM Network bits we do?
22:13:26 <Simeon> About LBreakout: is it just a repack or the beta I posted in the forum?
22:13:47 <JohnTHaller> The one you posted. The update
22:14:13 <Simeon> 2.6.3
22:14:14 <Simeon> ok
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22:14:41 <Simeon> bits?
22:14:57 <JohnTHaller> The weekly epsidoes I mean
22:15:03 <Simeon> yes.
22:15:15 <JohnTHaller> Cool. Glad you like em.
22:15:16 <Simeon> they are good fun, although I dont get all the jokes
22:15:45 <Simeon> Mixture of language barrier and not knowing what its about...
22:16:38 <Simeon> Oh and the updated installer grafics kinda look like Ubuntu's icons in a way...
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22:18:35 <JohnTHaller> Like em?
22:19:14 <Simeon> still have to get used to them. liked the old black-redish splashes better.
22:26:30 <JohnTHaller> Yeah? Most folks seem to like the new ones. It is an adjustment. But I think the new ones look more modern
22:28:32 <Simeon> as long as the apps work ok... :)
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22:44:13 <Simeon> gnight everyone.
22:44:23 <JohnTHaller> gnight
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22:48:44 <kAlug> Hallo!
22:48:48 <JohnTHaller> hola
22:49:35 <kAlug> How is it going John?
22:52:12 <JohnTHaller> Not bad. Busy busy. You?
22:55:25 <kAlug> I think this is one of the best Fridays I ever had. Everything is going into their places.
22:56:05 <kAlug> BTW, I was thinking, what about eventually renaming the PortableApps.com Installer to something like e.g. PortableApps.com App Packager?
22:57:10 <JohnTHaller> Been testing PAL and found this: http://portableapps.com/node/32091#comment-194410
22:57:33 <JohnTHaller> The eventual idea is to combine PAL, PAI into a packaging kit that contains everything you need.
22:58:04 <kAlug> http://portableapps.hg.sourceforge.net/hgweb/portableapps/launcher/rev/8f2fd3a489ef
22:58:54 <kAlug> We need another RC.
22:58:55 <JohnTHaller> Ah ok. Gonna push out another dev build?
22:59:18 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, ASAP. I'm at the point where I have to start updating old apps to the new installer (so they'll work on >2GB drives).
22:59:38 <kAlug> That reminds me... new translations...
22:59:52 <JohnTHaller> I'm pushing out the ones that don't use PAL first without upgrading them to PAL (because they work on UNC).
23:00:39 <kAlug> BTW, 1) was it decided if the warning should be enabled by default?
23:00:43 <JohnTHaller> Do we have new PAL translations?
23:01:03 <kAlug> Yep. And PAI, from what I saw for 3.0.2.
23:01:24 <JohnTHaller> If you guys want it enabled by default, it can be. It just means I gotta double check things like DirectoryMoveOK
23:04:00 <kAlug> Hmm... I think I'd prefer to err on the safe side (i.e. warn). But you have a point too...
23:04:36 <kAlug> Anyway, can you upload PAI's English.nsh and PortugueseBR.nsh? I can't access my copy of it right now.
23:06:52 <JohnTHaller> Sure, just a sec
23:08:18 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/PAILangsForkAlug.7z
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23:12:10 <Kieran> Hello
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23:13:33 <JohnTHaller> hi
23:13:57 <Kieran> with the portable.com Appcompactor where can i find the portable apps on my computer?
23:15:32 <JohnTHaller> Not sure what you mean. Do you not know where you installed it?
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23:16:55 <Kieran> know i dont know where the portable app has gone. i made it portable and it said check to see if it works and i cant find it
23:16:59 <Kieran> *no
23:17:39 <JohnTHaller> Run it again and it'll show you the path of what it last compressed
23:18:09 <Kieran> it only says what folder i want the app from
23:18:29 <JohnTHaller> Which will be prefilled with the path of what you last compressed. In there is your app.
23:19:57 <Kieran> let me check
23:20:18 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: Possibly illegal link: http://portableapps.com/node/31967#comment-194314
23:21:06 <JohnTHaller> removed
23:21:14 <Kieran> no it isnt there
23:21:34 <JohnTHaller> I'
23:21:38 <JohnTHaller> What was the app?
23:22:58 <JohnTHaller> kAlug: Honestly, I may just switch all apps to supporting UNC and not bother testing them. So, it may make sense to just have it off.
23:23:26 <JohnTHaller> Only 2 apps I know of have issues. Google Chrome and AppCompactor.
23:23:35 <Kieran> the app was Microsoft Visual Basic 2008
23:23:52 <JohnTHaller> Just search your hard drive for it, then, within Windows Explorer
23:24:51 <Kieran> can someone test this https://www.dropbox.com/sh/o14jxtn2parkeg1/UyTrGY190t/vbexpress.exe
23:25:08 <Kieran> i already have it installed so it will work no matter what error are there
23:25:09 <JohnTHaller> You can't package and redistribute Visual Basic legllay
23:25:19 <Kieran> how come?
23:25:28 <JohnTHaller> Becuase its license doesn't let you
23:26:07 <Kieran> can some one try it cause im using it for school for a course
23:26:15 <JohnTHaller> You can only redisrtibute apps with permission. Open source licenses nearly always give you that permission (except certain trademarks). Freeware licenses VERY rarely give you that permission. VB's does not.
23:27:06 <Kieran> ok
23:27:24 <JohnTHaller> what did yuou package it in anyway?
23:27:34 <Kieran> what do you mean?
23:27:55 <JohnTHaller> It's not a PAc installer. SO I'd guess a WinRAR self executable or something?
23:28:49 <Kieran> no its just a .exe
23:30:13 <JohnTHaller> it's just one EXE though, not the whole app, so it won't work by itself anywya
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