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02:11:45 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
02:11:52 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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03:26:13 <ErrorFinder> hello everybody
03:29:12 <ErrorFinder> I would like to know, why in the new version of PA (10.1.2) it doesn't work anymore to type in the program name. Is this error known, or is it an error on my machine. Thx
03:30:03 <ErrorFinder> Please help
03:30:05 <ErrorFinder> help!
03:30:06 <GizmoBot> ErrorFinder: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
03:30:41 <ErrorFinder> hello GizmoBot, I would like to know, why in the new version of PA (10.1.2) it doesn't work anymore to type in the program name. Is this error known, or is it an error on my machine. Thx
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04:02:22 <ErrorFinder> Found out myself. Have to to type F3. But let you know: This is means to remember a new key. And to open a permanently opend search box will only will do the same, if you don
04:03:14 <ErrorFinder> t have to click in. This would be the malest way! Bye
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15:23:51 <pa_7308> hi, does anyone else have an issue with ejecting a thumb drive after using Chrome? i have to kill the process in the task manager. is there a way to stop chrome portable running in the background after i close it?
15:25:05 <ZachThibeau> are you closing chrome before ejecting?
15:25:13 <pa_7308> yeah
15:26:49 <pa_7308> just wondered if everyone had this issue really. I had used it a few months ago and had the same issue and switched to firefox
15:27:31 <ZachThibeau> could be a launcher issue, in my opinion I would open up a bug report in the other forums at http://portableapps.com/forums
15:28:13 <pa_7308> okie doke will do, thanks for the help
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15:55:39 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
15:55:43 <JohnTHaller> hola
15:56:02 <ZachThibeau> and yes Minecraft can be addicting :P
15:56:21 <JohnTHaller> I have it locally, portable and on my android tablet
15:56:39 <JohnTHaller> But I haven't played it in months. Because whenever I do, a few hours seem to disappear on me.
15:57:23 <ZachThibeau> Gizmokid2005 has a minecraft server most of us play on
15:58:14 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah? I didn't know. I ususally only do single player.
15:58:36 <Gizmokid2005> haha, yeah.
15:58:43 <Gizmokid2005> I run a tight ship :)
15:58:56 <Gizmokid2005> my wife doesn't play often for that same reason...hours seem to disappear very quickly.
15:59:04 <ZachThibeau> yeah, I haven't been on in a little while but it's a pretty good server
15:59:35 <JohnTHaller> Ah yes minecraft, this is fun, wait where did the sun go.
16:00:48 <ZachThibeau> now I feel like playing now
16:01:08 <JohnTHaller> resist, man. call your sponsor.
16:01:26 <Gizmokid2005> haha
16:01:30 <Gizmokid2005> I have it on my phone...
16:01:41 <Gizmokid2005> I haven't actually played in probably 3 weeks, but I've been too busy.
16:02:52 <ZachThibeau> I don't have it on my phone, I tried it before but it's controls aren't my forte, I'm a mouse and keyboard kind of guy
16:04:37 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it works much better mouse n keyboard
16:05:15 <JohnTHaller> Hey, anybody have a suggestion for this week's new app?
16:06:05 <ZachThibeau> been slaving on PChat 2.0 and replacing it's xchat core with libircclient and porting plugin support
16:06:33 <JohnTHaller> That's an update, not a new app :-P
16:06:50 <ZachThibeau> well I was typing that as you typed yours
16:07:02 <JohnTHaller> I figured, just giving you a hard time :D
16:07:36 <ZachThibeau> but a new app, well minecraft sounds good :P
16:08:16 <JohnTHaller> My day today is working on file associations. I got it working so that you can adjust them in Options without it needing to affect the primary in-memory copy or machine settings until you click OK/Cancel. Setup two temporary arrays of objects for filetypes and apps.
16:08:42 <ZachThibeau> ohh file associations
16:09:11 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I think enough apps have been updated with the settings that we can push out a beta. Finally retire the need for eXpresso or Portable File Associations.
16:10:04 <ZachThibeau> very nice
16:10:50 <JohnTHaller> I'd been waiting on having our apps updated to support em internalling in PAF 3.0 with the file types and protocols set. But as all our major apps are now updated, I think we're good to let folks start testing.
16:10:51 <ZachThibeau> but kitty seems like a pretty good candidate
16:10:59 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I was thinking that
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16:14:16 <ZachThibeau> hey Arkhmud aka kalug
16:14:46 <Arkhmud> hi ZachThibeau aka Zach Thibeau
16:14:53 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: love the new splash for Sonbird :)
16:15:47 <Arkhmud> Before I forget: JohnTHaller, will you update the dev test splash screen with the new graphics?
16:16:21 <JohnTHaller> Yeah? Thanks. I've been trying to keep things consistent and let the apps shine. For apps with their own splash already, adding a subtle addition that lets users know it isn't the normal base version has been the goal.
16:16:29 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah, gotta do that.
16:16:34 <JohnTHaller> Did you notice GIMP's?
16:19:22 <ZachThibeau> not yet but given how awesome the others are looking it's probably awesome
16:20:18 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/gimp-splash.png
16:21:05 <ZachThibeau> very nice
16:21:28 <JohnTHaller> Tried to keep it subtle, simple and professional looking.
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16:53:38 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, it's definitely nice JohnTHaller :)
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17:23:10 <JohnTHaller> thanks :)
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17:31:30 <Gizmokid2005> are you going to keep up on the Songbird updates now?
17:32:04 <JohnTHaller> I always do :)
17:32:28 <Gizmokid2005> well, just makin' sure. I was doing the updates, but didn't want to worry about it if you were going to handle it now.
17:33:13 <JohnTHaller> Oh, you're welcome to if you'd like :)
17:33:36 <JohnTHaller> The less I have to do in app updates the better. Especially with all the renewed platform work.
17:40:18 <Gizmokid2005> did you convert the launcher to PAL?
17:41:52 <JohnTHaller> It's still a custom one IIRC
17:54:34 <Arkhmud> hey JohnTHaller, should I wait for the dev test splash or you aren't planning to do it now?
17:54:34 <Arkhmud> Not wanting to hurry you up, I just have an fresh-updated dev test here.
17:56:46 <JohnTHaller> Gimme a minute..
18:00:40 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/files/images/development/SplashDevelopmentTestRelease.jpg
18:00:43 <JohnTHaller> reload for latest
18:01:26 <Arkhmud> Oh, cool. Thanks!
18:02:37 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing. I'll update the App Template with it, too
18:02:53 <Arkhmud> BTW I've recently downloaded the Portable App Template, and the template-readme.txt needs a small update (assuming anyone does read it): http://p.kalug.net/1
18:03:12 <JohnTHaller> what did you change?
18:03:41 <Arkhmud> Added bullet point #2 ("Update Other\Source\Readme.txt, changing references to **AppID**Portable to the app's ID (e.g. FooBarPortable).")
18:04:24 <JohnTHaller> That it?
18:06:33 <Arkhmud> I think that's all.
18:06:45 <JohnTHaller> Ok. I also added 'else' to the don't change anything at the end
18:07:06 <JohnTHaller> Do not alter anything else (besides the readme) within the Other directory.
18:18:21 <Arkhmud> JohnTHaller: WRT PAL 2.2, what is the "extra EXE in the root directory"?
18:18:57 <Arkhmud> It doesn't show up in my local repo, so I assume it's a packaging error.
18:22:43 <JohnTHaller> PortableApps.comLauncher.exe in root. Packaging error.
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18:55:27 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: alright. I know that one would be a huge pain to convert when the time comes...
18:55:44 <GordCaswell> Hey all
18:56:30 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005: yeah, it will
18:56:31 <JohnTHaller> howdy
18:56:44 <Gizmokid2005> I'll let you handle that one JohnTHaller :) lol
18:56:46 <Gizmokid2005> 'ello GordCaswell
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19:06:53 <GordCaswell> JohnTHaller: I just tried to download the new DT splash you posted earlier, and I'm getting a 403 error
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19:11:09 <JohnTHaller> Working for me here
19:11:38 <JohnTHaller> It likely blocks referrers, so if you click it in certain IRC clients it could fail
19:12:37 <Arkhmud> hi GordCaswell
19:12:46 <GordCaswell> hi Arkhmud
19:13:50 <GordCaswell> interesting..i was trying from firefox, clicking on it in the logs. once i copy-pasted it worked fine.
19:16:16 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, the logs would have a referrer other than blank or PortableApps.com. Sitewide image protection.
19:16:31 <GordCaswell> Ah, that's why.
19:17:17 <GordCaswell> New app: my vote is for KiTTY as well.
19:18:04 <JohnTHaller> okey dokey. prob push that out tomorrow then
19:18:20 <Arkhmud> Am I missing something?
19:18:31 <GordCaswell> I've got something in mind for adding winscp support. i'll post it to depp.jones dev test thread right now
19:19:53 <GordCaswell> Arkhmud: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/?t=2012-06-25#T16-05-15
19:22:35 <JohnTHaller> added a referrer block exception for portableapps.chrismorgan.info
19:51:22 <GordCaswell> win scp integration for kitty posted for depp.jones or for you, JohnTHaller, when packaging
19:51:45 <JohnTHaller> Does it keep it portable, the integration?
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20:00:54 <GordCaswell> yep. it's set to %PAL:PortableAppsDir%\WinSCPPortable\WinSCPPortable.exe
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20:24:12 <GordCaswell> Arkhmud|Away, when you get a chance, can you let me know if TrimLeft is supported in PAL 2.2 RC 2, or is it being held off for 3.0?
20:26:09 <JohnTHaller> It is not
20:26:23 <JohnTHaller> Sadly, I could have used it in a recent app.
20:28:36 <GordCaswell> hmm...gues i'll have to custom-code it, then
20:28:41 <GordCaswell> *guess
20:34:42 <GordCaswell> actually, i think i'll just switch the filewrite type..easier to do
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20:44:46 <Gizmokid2005> hey JohnTHaller
20:44:55 <Gizmokid2005> is there any way to make the updater/installer more robust for apps?
20:51:34 <JohnTHaller> how do you mean?
21:01:46 <Gizmokid2005> check paths of exe's before updating
21:02:10 <Gizmokid2005> ie - when updating FF/TB betas, requiring the non-betas to be closed...same with OO and LO...as they use the same file structure, but are different apps
21:02:22 <Gizmokid2005> now I must run, but I"ll be back in a bit.
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