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13:04:29 <pie_> Can I make puttytray portable just by replacing putty portable's exe?
13:05:36 <Gizmokid2005> pie_: that should work just fine.
13:05:44 <Gizmokid2005> I've replaced the standard putty.exe with other builds without issues.
13:06:19 <pie_> thanks, i like to play paranoid, its not that i woulnt expect it to work i just dont want to be leaving registry entries everywhere :P
13:06:30 <pie_> Do you happen to know anything about plink?
13:06:56 <pie_> I found a nice portably made Xming/putty bundle and im trying to update the files
13:06:58 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, I hear you there. It should be alright though. Most non-puTTY putty's are the same base code and /should/ be the same, but there's always a bit of risk with them.
13:07:05 <Gizmokid2005> can't say I've heard of plink
13:08:03 <Gizmokid2005> PuTTYtray is what I used to use
13:08:04 <pie_> its part of the putty suite, well thanks anyway
13:08:08 <Gizmokid2005> I like the trasnparency.
13:08:20 <Gizmokid2005> I"ve just been too lazy to replace it again since the update
13:08:30 <pie_> btw putty is so awesome, but why is it so extremel slow to update?
13:09:14 <Gizmokid2005> *shrugs* have to ask the dev. LIkely because there really isn't much to the app, thus not much to really update. The latest version was pretty much a complete re-write, but not much actually changed with the app.
13:10:56 <pie_> they could for example integrate patches into the main
13:12:07 <Gizmokid2005> right, but you'd have to ask the dev about it.
13:12:16 <pie_> K, just saying.
13:12:58 <Gizmokid2005> I'm not saying I disagree, but you're preaching to the choir.
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16:52:31 <GizmoBot> Pyromaniac is a developer at PortableApps.com, and has been a member for over 3 years. Check out his projects at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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19:27:31 <kAlug> hello
19:29:56 <JohnTHaller> hola
19:30:02 <gluxon> ..
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19:31:27 <kAlug> not anymore... going to ditch Arkhmud for good
19:32:12 <kAlug> hi gluxon, JohnTHaller; how you doing?
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19:56:19 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
19:58:47 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: you ever get KVIrc around?
19:59:46 <JohnTHaller> I was a bit laid up with the foot and not online long enough. I have to do some custom installer stuff to convert the INI from the custom launcher to PAL since it doesn't use the standard variables. And I think I found a couple things it wasn't portablizing that it should. I'm working on it today.
20:00:00 <Gizmokid2005> good, don't post it :)
20:00:05 <JohnTHaller> Why?
20:00:08 <Gizmokid2005> also, what'd you find that needed portablizing still?
20:00:33 <JohnTHaller> Can't recall offhand. Seems it uses a ton of different files for things rather than just one config file.
20:00:49 <Gizmokid2005> the one kvirc.ini is simply to point to the config folder
20:00:53 <Gizmokid2005> which resides in \Data
20:01:01 <Gizmokid2005> technically \Data\Settings
20:01:42 <JohnTHaller> The KVIRCPortable.ini uses diffrerent vars than PAL does
20:02:14 <Gizmokid2005> Oohh, that ini
20:02:15 <Gizmokid2005> lol
20:02:17 <JohnTHaller> I only had a little time to look at it and it didn't look like an easy just drop it in situation. So I wanted to wait til I had more time to focus on it.
20:02:54 <Gizmokid2005> the KVIrcPortable.ini only has AdditionalParameters and DIsableSplashScreen in it, so it shouldn't have been anything out of the norm...
20:03:31 <JohnTHaller> No, the one in Data\settings
20:03:43 <Gizmokid2005> why are you worrying about that one?
20:03:44 <JohnTHaller> That you store last path and last drive letter in
20:03:55 <JohnTHaller> Because it uses different vars than PAL, so I need to convert them.
20:04:09 <Gizmokid2005> Oohh
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20:04:15 <JohnTHaller> And it uses a custom Settings var that I'll need to find if the user used a custom path and move that in, too
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20:04:23 <Gizmokid2005> yeah. THose were the ones I pulled from FirefoxPortable when I did Songbird and used the same logic for KVIrc
20:04:26 <Simeon1> hi all
20:04:34 <JohnTHaller> hi
20:05:02 <Gizmokid2005> and I say don't post it JohnTHaller because there was a bad bug in it that the devs found but didn't push a new version for since it was just a package problem.
20:05:07 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, so I looked through it and it seemed like a bigger job than just a quick switch. And I didn't want to keep the custom launcher becuase of the Qt rtegirty handling which is a bit off.
20:05:23 <JohnTHaller> So they building a new packahge or what?
20:05:28 <Gizmokid2005> right, and that was the best solution at the time
20:05:31 <Gizmokid2005> they already did
20:05:58 <JohnTHaller> So, do I need to redownload the build?
20:06:01 <Simeon1> am I right about http://portableapps.com/node/33033 ? Shouldne an app warn that it cant be moved as the new launchers detect that? is the GIMP launcher not yet a new one?
20:06:09 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: if you want to pull it and pull the files yourself, it's here: ftp://ftp.kvirc.de/pub/kvirc/4.2.0/binary/win32/
20:06:10 <JohnTHaller> GIMP can be moved
20:06:27 <Gizmokid2005> otherwise you can update the launcher, I can update the files, and send it back
20:06:30 <Gizmokid2005> completely up to you JohnTHaller
20:06:39 <JohnTHaller> Getting the files now
20:06:58 <Gizmokid2005> one word to the wise, you can't just extract the app out of the installer with 7zip, etc..
20:07:02 <Gizmokid2005> it has to actually be installed.
20:07:11 <Gizmokid2005> unless you know some nsis tricks I don't.
20:07:38 <JohnTHaller> I usually install it within a clean XP VM and then get the files out of that
20:07:46 <Gizmokid2005> that's what I do too :)
20:07:49 <Simeon1> ok
20:08:10 <JohnTHaller> Simeon1: Though I don't know with creating custom paths to stuff as I've never even tested that. Just use the ones in Data and it works fine.
20:08:32 <JohnTHaller> There's already paths for brushes and everything else within Data, so why go customizing path locations?
20:09:23 <Simeon1> he didnt customize paths, didnt he?
20:09:40 <Simeon1> just added brushes to the folders in DATA...afaikt
20:09:49 <JohnTHaller> Eh, don't know offhand then.
20:11:13 <JohnTHaller> The launcher portablizes all internal files (within Data etc) from launcher's last location to new location as you move it. And IIRC, that's all in pluginrc (handled in FileWrite1) and gimprc (handled in FileWrite5, 6 and 7 and)
20:13:52 <JohnTHaller> But they did add path hashs in the last release to plugins, so pluginsrc now has to be rebuilt with EVERY path change.
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20:26:08 <kAlug> hi ZachThibeau
20:26:47 <ZachThibeau> hey kAlug
20:28:22 <kAlug> how you doing?
20:28:50 <ZachThibeau> pretty good, work was slow
20:29:56 <ZachThibeau> had technical issues where dialer was down and couldn't reach customers
20:30:16 <ZachThibeau> so basically I truely worked 3 hours and got paid to sit around doing nothing afterwards
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21:32:54 <pa_4660> please created portable for 'Torch Browser 1.0.0.1250 " =]
21:35:18 <ZachThibeau> application requests should be made on the forum
21:35:40 <ZachThibeau> which is located here http://portableapps.com/forums/general/request_apps
21:35:54 <pa_4660> sorry,I did not know
21:36:08 <pa_4660> what link forum?
21:36:12 <ZachThibeau> and guidelines for making requests should be made in this format http://portableapps.com/node/4507
21:36:15 <pa_4660> thx
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