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03:01:36 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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03:25:52 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
03:38:30 <JWHough> Got my laptop back everyone
03:38:53 <JWHough> took two months, but we've been reunited once again
03:39:07 <JWHough> Thanks GizmoBot
03:39:07 <GizmoBot> Yw JWHough!
03:39:10 <WifiWombat> JWHough: two months?
03:39:20 <JWHough> yessir
03:39:21 <WifiWombat> is it an HP or compaq?
03:39:29 <JWHough> haha neither
03:39:29 <JWHough> Asus
03:39:37 <WifiWombat> aw, shit - that's what I have
03:39:52 <JWHough> that's where its at
03:39:53 <WifiWombat> lol, I've had to send mine back twice - what was borked on yours?
03:40:28 <JWHough> I took it on a trip to california--about six hours from here--and accidentally left it at my cousins house
03:40:37 <WifiWombat> hahahha
03:40:42 <JWHough> I mean not from here
03:40:47 <WifiWombat> that would SUCK
03:40:48 <JWHough> from my home
03:40:51 <JWHough> yeah
03:41:47 <JWHough> It did. I had to use my iPod and then a couple of weeks ago my iPad for internet access, or the public library. Reunited and it feels so good
03:41:57 <WifiWombat> oh, yeah
03:42:30 <JWHough> Have you always gone by wifiwombat?
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03:42:45 <JWHough> ah
03:43:03 <JWHough> Hi Oliver
03:43:08 <OliverK> it was more useful when I fist came up with it then now
03:43:12 <OliverK> howdy JWHough
03:43:45 <OliverK> [22:43:37] [Whois] OliverK is ~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk (OliverKrystal)
03:43:47 <OliverK> :)
03:44:31 <JWHough> :D
03:46:18 <JWHough> http://portableapps.com/node/11772#comment-197371
03:47:59 <OliverK> ?
03:48:26 <OliverK> seems sort of useless . . .
03:50:05 <OliverK> that reminds me, I have to renew that domain
03:50:59 <JWHough> glad to remind you
03:51:15 <OliverK> not that domain, another one
03:51:28 <OliverK> i have a spaghetti mind sometimes
03:51:39 <OliverK> i'm freaking missile command here, its awesome
03:52:00 <JWHough> I don't have a clue what that app does either, but I'm too lazy to tell him to post it in the beta forums
03:52:18 <OliverK> lazy sounds like a plan man
03:53:09 * JWHough doesn't have a clue what you meant by missile command
03:53:33 <OliverK> my workspace up here is setup ever so perfectly, just ordered the very last piece I think today
03:53:41 <OliverK> powered USB hub
03:53:55 <OliverK> so I'm not taxing the three USB ports on my netboook
03:54:05 <JWHough> I'm at that point in life where I don't want to do anything, but when I'm not doing anything, I feel like I have to find something to do, but then when that opportunity comes, I don't want to do it
03:54:20 <OliverK> 3rd year of college?
03:54:43 <JWHough> ha! my workspace consists of nothing but a laptop
03:55:05 <JWHough> nope. I start my first year in 15 days
03:55:16 <OliverK> lol
03:55:18 <OliverK> http://soliloquyforthefallen.net/temp/IMG_1690.JPG-convert.png
03:55:28 <OliverK> ^^ workspace. It feels better then the photo looks
03:57:06 <OliverK> its stupid how important having the right flow is
03:57:19 <OliverK> but I've hit it right there, going one little bit at a time
03:57:28 <JWHough> hahaha at the moment, I only see the bottom of the cd at the top left. Super slow hotel wifi
03:58:16 <JWHough> Perhaps you should write the words "LIKE A BOSS" in impact font across the bottom of the image, eh?
03:59:38 <OliverK> meh
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13:51:11 <V13Axel> Anyone here on PChat portable?
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14:10:13 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
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14:41:23 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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14:56:10 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
14:56:10 <GizmoBot> digitxp has his old launchers available at http://portableapps.com/node/21283
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15:54:30 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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15:54:37 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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17:05:01 <Mir> OliverK: :D
17:05:08 <Mir> did you see the picture?
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17:22:20 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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17:29:20 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
17:29:33 <ZachThibeau> JWHough: hey pyro
17:29:46 <JWHough> hi ZachThibeau
17:30:38 <JWHough> .seen JohnTHaller
17:30:38 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen johnthaller around.
17:32:03 <JWHough> a $440 million IT glitch http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19145584
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17:41:17 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller
17:41:47 <JohnTHaller> hola
17:43:23 <ZachThibeau> what's new?
17:44:05 <JohnTHaller> Planning out the week at the moment. Was going to get more done over the weekend but had a 3 day migraine, so I just got apps updated and started testing out the new SF download buttons.
17:44:58 <ZachThibeau> hmm I spent most of the day cleaning my apartment, my old roommate left the place in a mess after he left
17:48:06 <JWHough> that sounds like fun ZachThibeau. I'm getting an apartment in a week or so... what was the worst thing about having one?
17:48:24 <JWHough> JohnTHaller: PM?
17:48:25 <ZachThibeau> JWHough: bills
17:48:50 <ZachThibeau> JWHough: thankfully for me though my electricity, my wifi, tv etc are all inclusive with my rent
17:50:22 <JWHough> haha wow. I'll be getting electricity, water, and garbage free only, and I thought I was going to have it good O_o
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17:54:01 <ZachThibeau> I only pay $350
17:54:50 <ZachThibeau> per month
17:55:00 <Mir> o.o
17:55:16 <Mir> thats what i pay just to have a roof
17:55:28 <Mir> i pay my own wifi and cable
17:55:38 <ZachThibeau> yeah, this was a rare find for me
17:55:51 <Mir> you luckey SOB
17:55:54 <ZachThibeau> and my internet is powered by fibreoptics
17:55:57 <Mir> son of biscut
17:56:01 <Mir> :)
17:56:18 <Mir> 0___0
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18:33:47 <GizmoBot> AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug.
18:34:37 <ZachThibeau> hey AluisioASG
18:35:11 <AluisioASG> Hai Sacha
18:35:36 <AluisioASG> Argh, stupid T9
18:35:47 <AluisioASG> Hai Zach
18:37:38 <Mir> AluisioASG: when i thanked gordcaswell it was because of a support question i asked earlier. just as an FY i was ot off topic
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18:52:52 <pa_7345> hi i need help with the platform, it's gone and i don't know what is the shortcut keys to get it back
18:53:05 <pa_7345> i tried to use ctrl+alt+space, but it just hides it
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18:56:26 <gluxon> pa_7345: The platform icon isn't shown in the icon notification center? (system tray?)
18:58:32 <pa_7345> no it isn't
18:58:33 <pa_7345> i don't know why
18:58:59 <pa_7345> it's gone
19:01:30 <pa_7345> im using Win7 if that helps
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19:09:47 <gluxon> pa_7345: What happens when you double click on Start.exe?
19:10:32 <gluxon> In the installation folder of your PortableApps?
19:11:57 <pa_7345> when i double click the platform comes back up
19:12:13 <pa_7345> but it will say that it is already running
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19:46:34 <V13Axel> Alright, so I have a beginning developers' question. How would I go about creating an "online" installer for a freeware application that already has a built-in 'portable' installation setting? The installation is entirely portable, and I've already made a launcher for it that works with PA.c on a flash drive. I was just wanting to know how I would create an online installer that conforms to PA.c 3.0.
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20:22:22 <gluxon> V13Axel: Why can't the launcher turn on the portable setting?
20:22:26 <gluxon> After installation?
20:23:47 <V13Axel> Well, when you download the application's installer and run it, it has three options. Standard Install being one, which just installs in the default Program Files location, Custom, where you can choose installation location, and then Portable, which lets you confine the entire installation to one folder.
20:24:05 <V13Axel> If you install it as a 'Portable' installation, you have to create your own shortcuts, etc.
20:24:14 <V13Axel> It works fine as it is, on my flash drive, from multiple computers.
20:24:50 <V13Axel> However, I'm wanting to make a portable installer so I can give it out. However, it's closed-source freeware, so I know I have to have the installer download the official installer.
20:25:17 <gluxon> So what you want is to extract the downloaded installer with the portable setting?
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20:25:36 <V13Axel> I created a simple batch file called DigsbyPortable.bat, had a program convert it to .exe, and then made my own configuration settings so that PA.c would see it.
20:25:39 <V13Axel> Essentially.
20:26:18 <V13Axel> Think of the way Chrome's installer does it. It downloads the installer, and then installs it, adding things to make it portable.
20:26:37 <V13Axel> However, this app already has a portable feature, so i want to create an installer for it that utilizes that, if I can.
20:27:16 <gluxon> V13Axel: I bet the "portable feature/setting" is set somewhere in the program's configuration files.
20:27:55 <gluxon> You have to find it first, then code the installer to change that setting after extracting the program.
20:30:41 <V13Axel> The only thing I can find that even alludes to it is a yaml file that includes the locations of where all the user data, etc, goes.
20:30:48 <V13Axel> I'm going to look at a full installation and see if that file is there.
20:32:36 <V13Axel> There's a difference in folder structure with the portable version, actually.
20:33:22 <V13Axel> Full install has two folders next to the .EXE. lib, and res. The portable version(Before my launcher) has env, lib, and res. I'm guessing env is environment variables.
20:33:41 <V13Axel> The configuration file for portable is called portable.yaml, and does not exist in the full install.
20:35:29 <gluxon> So it appears that having a file called portable.yaml starts the program in portable mode?
20:35:39 <V13Axel> I'm unsire.
20:35:40 <V13Axel> unsure*
20:35:55 <gluxon> Is there a sure-fire way for you to know if the program is in portable mode?
20:36:06 <V13Axel> I'm going to put the file there in my full installation and see if that adds the env directory(Pointed to by the portable.yaml file)
20:36:19 <V13Axel> Well, I have two installations right now. One is on a flash drive, the other is on my hard drive.
20:36:50 <V13Axel> The portable installation has the env directory, which seems to be outlined by the portable.yaml file.
20:37:48 <V13Axel> Also, if it's in portable mode, it will ask if you're sure you want to save your password, as 'anyone in possession of the device this installation is on will have access to your account.'
20:38:17 <V13Axel> It would seem that the only thing necessary to make it portable is the portable.yaml file.
20:38:17 <gluxon> Ah, so move portable.yaml to the full installation and see if the program asks to save your password?
20:38:20 <V13Axel> I did.
20:38:25 <gluxon> What was the result?
20:38:26 <V13Axel> It also created the env folder.
20:38:29 <gluxon> :)
20:38:36 <gluxon> That's good.
20:38:38 <V13Axel> "Your password will be saved on your portable device. Anyone with access.."
20:38:42 <V13Axel> So that's apparently all that's required.
20:39:00 <V13Axel> Now, I need to figure out how to make an installer that will do that and conform to PA.c 3.0.
20:39:27 <gluxon> Does your program write any settings to portable.yaml?
20:39:31 <V13Axel> No.
20:39:43 <gluxon> I'd just place it in App\AppName\portable.yaml then.
20:40:15 <gluxon> Then it'll be all set when you extract the program from the installer.
20:40:37 <V13Axel> It has to be in(In this case) PortableApps\DigsbyPortable\App\res\portable.yaml
20:40:56 <V13Axel> Think you could help me out on this?
20:40:58 <gluxon> Right, according to the original file structure.
20:41:01 <V13Axel> I don't even know where to start.
20:41:06 <gluxon> Sure.
20:42:00 <V13Axel> Alright, I'll PM you.
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21:22:48 <MrKitty871> https://dl.dropbox.com/s/dqfyn05r9hld4iy/minecraft.exe?dl=1
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22:01:36 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
22:02:46 <AluisioASG> hey JWHough
22:02:57 <JWHough> Hi AluisioASG
22:04:35 <JWHough> wow ZachThibeau that's incredibly cheap. I'm gonna pay half of the 550/month for my place. Or 275. Plus 50 for internet. :)
22:05:53 <ZachThibeau> yeah it was a rare find
22:09:05 <ZachThibeau> gives me enough resolution to be creative the way I want to be, even in my own cooking
22:09:22 <ZachThibeau> http://twitpic.com/agaln1 it's a little traditional but sometimes traditional is good :P
22:11:45 <AluisioASG> ZachThibeau: Instagram that photo.
22:12:19 <ZachThibeau> I rather not use instagram
22:12:42 <AluisioASG> Me neither.
22:15:49 <AluisioASG> Here's why I told you to do it (translation by Google Translate™): http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmacro-cefalo.blogspot.com.br%2F2012%2F04%2Forkutizacao-do-instagram.html&act=url
22:18:53 <JWHough> I don't see the connection?
22:19:25 <JWHough> but it might just be the translation --> "macfags whimper"? haha
22:20:43 <AluisioASG> Basically, here in Brazil, we made the connection "Instagram available for Android (i.e. non-richs non-iPhone owners)" -> decay of the quality of the photos posted on it.
22:21:23 <AluisioASG> This is what we usually call "orkutization".
22:22:27 <JWHough> ah, that's pretty funny.
22:22:47 <JWHough> there's always the ipod touch, though :P
22:30:34 <V13Axel> Excuse the cursing, but:
22:30:36 <V13Axel> http://i.imgur.com/qorK9.jpg
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22:31:16 <AluisioASG> "Website currently unavailable"
22:31:28 <V13Axel> Working fine for me.
22:31:56 <V13Axel> I'll try finding another.
22:32:18 <AluisioASG> It loaded now.
22:33:00 <V13Axel> ^My reasoning for not liking Instagram.
22:33:27 <V13Axel> Everyone I've seen use Instagram has used it for pictures of the most random stuff.
22:34:13 <V13Axel> "Hmm. I'm eating food today, let's take a picture on it with Instagram!"
22:34:56 <AluisioASG> Yeah. Pretty uninteresting. Unless you're an astronaut.
22:35:31 <V13Axel> Indeed.
22:35:40 <V13Axel> In which case, you can do that all you want.
22:37:12 <AluisioASG> NASA needs to send more rovers to space: http://xkcd.com/1091/
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