IRC Log from 2012-09-18
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00:46:02 <AluisioASG> hey
00:54:47 <ZachThibeau> hey AluisioASG
01:07:07 <AluisioASG> Hey ZachThibeau. My condolences for your sister's lost.
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01:08:11 <ZachThibeau> AluisioASG: thanks
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01:21:08 <AluisioASG> wow...
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14:48:35 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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15:27:19 <GizmoBot> AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug.
15:27:27 <AluisioASG> hey JohnTHaller
15:27:33 <JohnTHaller> hola
15:28:10 <AluisioASG> I suppose you didn't get my last message last night.
15:28:19 <JohnTHaller> what message?
15:28:44 <AluisioASG> I'd like to know if you can change my forum username.
15:29:35 <AluisioASG> From 'kAlug' to 'Aluísio A. S. G.'
15:30:15 <JohnTHaller> Drop me an email from your registered email address for proof.
15:36:48 <AluisioASG> Sent.
15:39:45 <JohnTHaller> changed
15:40:10 <JohnTHaller> btw - your domain name is down, so I couldn't get your updated P-BR translation for platform 10.2
15:41:24 <AluisioASG> Yah. I'll send you the updated translations.
15:41:45 <JohnTHaller> email is fine. I should have 11 beta 1 out tonight, so I can include them in that
15:41:53 <AluisioASG> OK.
15:42:04 <AluisioASG> BTW, how does the partial update thing work?
15:42:33 <JohnTHaller> Detects which version of the app you have installed and if there is an update specifically for that, it gets that instead.
15:42:45 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/news/2012-09-17--portableapps.com-platform-10.2-released#comment-198696
15:44:04 <AluisioASG> Ah. I'm sure my TortoiseHg Portable will benefit from this once released.
15:44:37 <JohnTHaller> We'll likely only use it on revisions of apps. When we fix a launcher bug or enhance it. Since otherwise, apps generally update all their files.
15:45:19 <JohnTHaller> I've held off on a Suarbraten update just for that reason because I didn't want people to have to download 440MB just for a launcher enhancement and packaging update.
15:49:47 <AluisioASG> Hey John, how would you categorize this app: http://portableapps.com/node/31809 ?
15:50:58 <JohnTHaller> Does it make the ZIM files by downloading the websites?
15:51:59 <AluisioASG> No. The ZIM files are distributed by the project itself.
15:52:18 <JohnTHaller> Ah ok. It wouldn't be internet then. I suppose office, as it's basically a file viewer.
15:52:50 <AluisioASG> I guessed right then. Thanks.
15:57:11 <AluisioASG> Oh, before I forget: is there any reason I'm not voiced here?
16:00:29 <JohnTHaller> Maybe because you switched your name?
16:01:32 <AluisioASG> No, I wasn't voiced before as well. I think everybody forgot to do that.
16:02:14 <JohnTHaller> I just tried to voice you and it said no suck nick.
16:03:23 <JohnTHaller> There we go
16:04:31 <AluisioASG> Thank you.
16:04:39 <JohnTHaller> Not sure if it is permanent or not.
16:05:47 <AluisioASG> I suppose it is.
16:06:18 <JohnTHaller> If not, let me know
16:09:44 <AluisioASG> Well, I have to go now. Bye!
16:10:09 <JohnTHaller> bye :)
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17:56:28 <pa_3971> Hm. Interesting. Haven't been on IRC since my college days. when I was on way too much.
17:56:53 <JohnTHaller> Welcome back
17:56:59 <pa_3971> Anyway looks like OpenDNS is blocking download.portableapps.com as malware.
17:57:20 <pa_3971> I've submitted an unblock request per normal channels but thought someone should know....
17:57:41 <JohnTHaller> Really? I'm on OpenDNS and it's working for me
17:58:10 <pa_3971> Yep.
17:58:11 <pa_3971> This host was blocked by OpenDNS in response to the Conficker virus, the Microsoft IE zero-day vulnerability, an equally serious vulnerability, or some other threat.
17:58:32 <JohnTHaller> download.portableapps.com doesn't even host any web pages.
17:58:33 <pa_3971> We're using corporate OpenDNS... perhaps a different filter set?
17:58:47 <pa_3971> It's used by the auto-updaters, right?
17:59:01 <JohnTHaller> Nope. No web pages at all on it.
17:59:16 <pa_3971> I've been getting 403 access denied errors whenever I try to update my portable apps
17:59:33 <JohnTHaller> The files are downloaded from there. But it's all EXE files.
17:59:43 <JohnTHaller> Where is the contact for getting them to fix their error?
18:00:17 <pa_3971> http://portableapps.com/bouncer?t=http://download.portableapps.com/portableapps/aimpportable/AIMPPortabler_3.10.1074_Rev_3.paf.exe
18:00:25 <JohnTHaller> No, that
18:00:41 <JohnTHaller> No, that's the download URL.
18:00:59 <JohnTHaller> I mean how do you tell OpenDNS to fix their screw up. They don't seem to have any details posted publicly.
18:01:03 <pa_3971> "I get Download Error: Acces Forbidden (403) on file" with the above URL when the updater attempts to update my AIMP Portable app.
18:02:26 <pa_3971> The unblock request for that page is a mailto 'malware-block@opendns.com' with subject [MALWARE-BLOCK] download.portableapps.com
18:02:44 <pa_3971> I sent an email with the following body: The PortableApps.com updater URLs are being blocked by OpenDNS as malware as download.portableapps.com is being blocked as a Malware site. Can you confirm the malware threat from this site or unblock?
18:03:08 <JohnTHaller> And they provide no information on the block page about what or why?
18:03:29 <pa_3971> I'm getting errors currently for AIMP, and Foxit, but MIcroSIP just went through.
18:03:38 <pa_3971> It's updating Notepadd++ Portable now as well.
18:03:50 <pa_3971> SystemExplorer just bombed though...
18:04:07 <pa_3971> same for Windows Error Lookup Tool
18:04:20 <pa_3971> XnView bombs as well
18:05:35 <pa_3971> So obviously not all pull from download.portableapps.com...
18:05:45 <JohnTHaller> Some publishers self-host.
18:05:54 <pa_3971> Gotcha
18:05:55 <JohnTHaller> I just called OpenDNS. They have no idea and asked me to email their support team
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18:08:40 <zoz> hello
18:08:57 <pa_3971> I can try whitelisting the domain in my config but of course that will only help me and the users on the networks I administer.
18:09:08 <pa_3971> Hopefully they'll get the classification fixed soon.
18:09:20 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. We'll see how long it takes them to respond.
18:09:34 <zoz> the search function is out from interface? [i mean search within apps while typing part of the app name]
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18:09:53 <JohnTHaller> The fact that they randomly blacklist a fully clean site with 2m absolute unique visitors without even double checking anything raises some doubts about their product.
18:10:11 <JohnTHaller> zoz: Type / or hit F3 to start a search
18:10:47 <zoz> JohnTHaller: 10x, somehow i missed that
18:10:48 <pa_3971> probably use some of the same scanning engines that have randomly reported false positives on some of the portable app installers and classified the site as malware automatically.
18:11:35 <JohnTHaller> Odd that only OpenDNS is having an issue then
18:12:40 <zoz> bye
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18:12:48 <JohnTHaller> zoz: You're welcome :) bye
18:17:49 <pa_3971> Sorry... was in other windows...
18:18:33 <pa_3971> Whitelist hasn't worked (yet). Oh well. I'll keep checking and hopefully they fix the classification.
18:18:50 <pa_3971> Anyway, thanks for the great work and a really useful platform/tool.
18:18:53 <pa_3971> Much appreciated.
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18:19:31 <JohnTHaller> I've emailed the. Supposed to hear 'within 72 hours'. Think we may have to let folks know and suggest they switch to Google's DNS instead. Might not be a bad idea of OpenDNS is as clueless as they seem.
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21:32:52 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
21:32:58 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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21:57:04 <GordCaswell> ZachThibeau: couple spam posts: http://portableapps.com/node/34515 & http://portableapps.com/node/34516
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