IRC Log from 2012-09-23

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06:33:36 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
06:33:42 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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14:53:23 <GizmoBot> AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug.
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15:58:53 <AluisioASG> hey ZachThibeau
16:19:16 <ZachThibeau> hey AluisioASG
16:19:25 <AluisioASG> how you doing?
16:19:40 <ZachThibeau> doing alright
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17:09:43 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
17:10:21 <AluisioASG> ah! Who voiced me?
17:11:22 <AluisioASG> and hi vf2nsr
17:11:44 <vf2nsr> Hi AluisioASG was not me
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18:40:57 <gluxon> AluisioASG: You were auto-voiced.
18:41:12 <AluisioASG> gluxon: Do you know why?
18:41:32 <gluxon> AluisioASG: Because you were given the +V flag by someone.
18:42:15 <AluisioASG> Ah. Looks like a reasonable explanation.
18:42:24 <gluxon> So you're perma-voiced now :)
18:43:14 <AluisioASG> Nice.
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21:39:48 <JohnTHaller> Faster 11.0 release and then a 12.0 release to get more features 'stable' faster or longer 11.0 beta? (Same overall timeframe): http://portableapps.com/node/34590
21:39:57 <JohnTHaller> Love to get everyone's thoughts on that.
21:40:27 <gluxon> Awesome, checking it out now :)
21:41:51 <AluisioASG> hey JohnTHaller! Was about to send you an email.
21:42:23 <JohnTHaller> whats's up AluisioASG?
21:45:17 <AluisioASG> I've downloaded the Platform's source code and fixed a couple things in the bug tracker (Windows 8 and untranslated strings); I was about to send you the changes, in case you want to incorporate them.
21:47:29 <AluisioASG> Just simple changes, actually.
21:47:42 <JohnTHaller> thanks, gluxon. I think we can have a viable 11.0 out this week if we do the quick strategy and then immediately start 12.0. Just added a paragraph about it
21:48:14 <JohnTHaller> AluisioASG: Please send them over right now :) I'm doing platform updates as we speak. Already fixed the sort issue with the app store. Working on manual vs automatic proxy support now.
21:48:55 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: That's great. Additionally, it'll make us seem a bit more active. :)
21:50:02 <JohnTHaller> We're going to be VERY active in the coming days/weeks/months if things roll out as I'm hoping. Forget about platform bugs languishing for months. We'll make it so they get squashed within a week or two.
21:51:40 <JohnTHaller> I may sneak app store views into 11.0 as well as they're low-hanging fruit and could be really handy. Instead of just the current category app store view, you'd get 4: By Category, Alphabetical, New Releases, Recently Updated. As well as being able to search the app store (searching the name, sub-category and description).
21:51:40 <gluxon> I wish I had money for Delphi -.-
21:52:16 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it's not cheap. I wish we could get more donations to be able to buy some copies. Then again, I wish we had enough money so I didn't have to keep loaning PA.c funds.
21:53:55 <AluisioASG> JohnTHaller: here is it: https://gist.github.com/11ea17320f519ea999f2#file_pap.patch . BTW, which indentation do you use? 2 spaces?
21:55:14 <AluisioASG> I'll upload the updated locale files in a minute. Same URL.
21:56:00 <JohnTHaller> AluisioASG: Yes, 2 spaces
21:57:51 <AluisioASG> Thanks. And locales were uploaded.
22:02:49 <JohnTHaller> Thanks, AluisioASG. All integrated :)
22:04:57 <JohnTHaller> Updated the tracker to indicate such as well: http://portableapps.com/node/28593
22:06:12 <JohnTHaller> I'm thinking of having the 'About' screen have tabs across the top (ala the Options screen in 10.2) with trouble-shooting and report info. That might be a good place for this: http://portableapps.com/node/28998 Thoughts?
22:11:03 <AluisioASG> Interesting. It would be nice if it integrated seamlessly with the rest of that screen.
22:14:32 <JohnTHaller> Just tabs across the top of it (ala current 'stable' Options window http://cdn.portableapps.com/_features_-_advanced.png ). So, the title of the window would be About. But with tabs for: Platform, Supports, Installed Apps
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22:15:58 <gluxon> It might be easier to have those in different windows, wouldn't it?
22:16:13 <gluxon> The "Installed Apps" window is going to probably be longer than the others.
22:18:36 <JohnTHaller> Basic scrollable multi-line textbox. And I switch the About window to resizeable (defaulting to current size). It would be infrequently used, but handy for folks who want a quick list of all their apps (split to PAF and non-PAF) for troubleshooting purposes, swwing which apps they still need to migrate to PAF as we release them, posting in forums, etc.
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22:22:21 <AluisioASG> I think it would look best if the dialog were a bit larger.
22:25:45 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, but I don't think I want to work it into another menu option. Any thoughts?
22:32:38 <AluisioASG> I don't think you understood me. I meant "go ahead; just make the width a little bigger (maybe not; I need to see how it will look like first)".
22:41:16 <AluisioASG> ... well, I off for a walk for an hour or so. Later all.
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23:43:17 <JohnTHaller> AluisioASG|Away: Good point, maybe do the width more like the Firefox About window instead
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