IRC Log from 2012-09-30
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01:53:38 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
01:53:42 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
01:53:55 <ZachThibeau> netsplit?
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12:18:16 <pie_> How does one go about rebuilding an application launcher with custom modifications? Say with firefox portable.
12:51:34 <pie_> why is it so hard to find documentation...
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13:28:25 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer
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13:29:46 <AluisioASG|Away> pie_: Have you tried http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/intro/quickstart/#using-the-portableapps-com-launcher-generator ?
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13:30:16 <AluisioASG> hello GordCaswell
13:31:19 <GordCaswell> pie_: try the NSIS documentation at nsis.SourceForge.net/docs as well, for modifying something like the Firefox Portable launcher. Note that we do NOT provide support for modifications like that.
13:31:46 <GordCaswell> hi AluisioASG
13:35:12 <GordCaswell> pie_: what is it you're trying to accomplish?
13:35:17 <pie_> hi AluisioASG , yeah I actually found that a few minutes ago but havent actualyl tried the launcher it generated, thanks. Im slowly starting to find my way around PAL, but the individuallaunchers seem to have no documentation.
13:36:00 <AluisioASG> Indeed they don't. That's a reason we're moving away from them.
13:37:57 <pie_> GordCaswell, Im trying to make the directory structure a bit more flexible for me. Right now I'm just doing research but I plan to make some patches to the source that makes the Data folder's location settable via the AppNamePortable.ini file
13:38:40 <pie_> it doesnt seem like theres a lot to change but I wont be able to work on it till next weekend, if I get anywhere Ill send a patch.
13:41:27 <GordCaswell> I see. Note that we will not be adding support for doing so to PAL, as having the directory set up how it is, is part of the PortableApps.com Format Specification: http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
13:43:34 <pie_> ok well ill send it anyway because there seem to be a few hardcoded paths left while most places use $DataDirectory(though I'm yet to see whether thats for a reason),
13:44:35 <pie_> making it hardcoded or settable is just switching out ./Segments/Variables.nsh: StrCpy $DataDirectory $EXEDIR\Data for ReadINIVar or whatever it is
13:46:03 <pie_> ReadINIStr
13:49:58 <pie_> do note that several apps(I didnt bother checking more) seem to have a SettingsDirectory=Data\settings entry in their APPNamePortable.ini file which makes that settable to an arbitrary directory
13:51:20 <GordCaswell> That setting is a hold-over from when we were custom-coding all launchers, before settling on PAL as a standard.
13:51:29 <pie_> others that have more folders in Data seem to have them all settable to an arbitrary folder
13:51:33 <pie_> aha.
13:52:45 <pie_> why not expose it to power users and condemn its usage when apps are being distributed
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13:58:58 <pie_> its not really related to what im doing but i use portableapps for persistance between windows reinstalls
14:00:24 <GordCaswell> I do as well, and I have no need to modify the location of the Data directory, or any other directory, for that matter.
14:01:08 <pie_> As I said, they're unrelated :P
14:01:18 <pie_> well, I'm out.
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17:34:36 <dpolivaev> gluxon,
17:34:54 <dpolivaev> I have created the new freeplane launcher based on
17:35:11 <dpolivaev> launch4j and your PortableApp launcher.
17:35:34 <dpolivaev> I hope I am 100% compatible with your requirements now, am I ?
17:36:06 <dpolivaev> http://portableapps.com/node/34224
17:39:35 <dpolivaev> help!
17:39:36 <GizmoBot> dpolivaev: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
17:40:13 <dpolivaev> gluxon,
17:40:29 <dpolivaev> I have created the new freeplane launcher based on launch4j and your PortableApp launcher.
17:40:37 <dpolivaev> http://portableapps.com/node/34224
17:40:45 <dpolivaev> I hope I am 100% compatible with your requirements now, am I ?
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18:59:39 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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19:01:44 <pa_6854> how does dropbox work with portable apps
19:01:55 <pa_6854> im a newbie to this
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19:03:04 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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19:04:50 <pa_6854> this shit sucks and so do you stupid fucks who dont talk
19:05:51 <vf2nsr> or maybe you need to allwo people time to respond?
19:07:16 <vf2nsr> http://portableapps.com/node/28675 take a look here
19:08:57 <vf2nsr> BTW language like that is not tolerated here
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19:14:28 <JWHough> pa_6854: how can we help you?
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21:26:25 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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