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00:57:52 <GizmoBot> AluisioASG is a PortableApps.com developer and translator, previously known as kAlug.
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01:47:24 <AluisioASG> hai JohnTHaller
01:47:28 <JohnTHaller> hola
01:47:50 <AluisioASG> How you doing?
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01:48:47 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer
01:50:07 <AluisioASG> Gwkki GordCaswell
01:50:10 <GordCaswell> Hey all. How goes?
01:50:19 <AluisioASG> er… hello
01:50:51 <GordCaswell> Heh. Close enough :)
01:51:09 <JohnTHaller> Gwkki!
01:52:32 <GordCaswell> Ooo...and an exclamation point. Extra points for the added emphasis!
01:54:28 <GordCaswell> Not staying on, just wanted to pop in and say hi.
01:54:55 <JohnTHaller> Gwkki (gwik-kee) interjection. Used to express greeting
01:55:27 <GordCaswell> ha..you should add it to Wikipedia, see if it catches on
01:57:01 <JohnTHaller> GordCaswell: How do you feel about releasing CintaNotes as stable?
02:01:16 <GordCaswell> I'm ok with it. There's no issues that I'm aware of. Note that, as indicated in appinfo, it is a non-commercial use app.
02:01:55 <JohnTHaller> I know, that's fine. I'm actually going to add a field for that in the system so users can exclude them if they want.
02:02:52 <JohnTHaller> Are you portablizing alternate DB and skin selections from outside the CintaNotesPortable directory? http://portableapps.com/node/30556#comment-197766
02:03:32 <JohnTHaller> From the launcher.ini it doesn't seem any paths are being adjusted.
02:04:39 * GordCaswell is investigating
02:05:18 <JohnTHaller> I can add that in for the actual release. It's pretty trivial. cinatnotes.settings contains an entry: notebook.file = C:\PathToFile\DatabaseName.db
02:05:32 <JohnTHaller> I'd wager skins are stored in the same fashion in the same file.
02:07:07 <GordCaswell> Hmm, yeah, I hadn't tackled that yet. If it's a simple fix, may as well add support for both.
02:07:47 <JohnTHaller> Just the usual path portablization. Three FileWriteN Type Replace statements for drive, portableappsbase, and partialpackage
02:08:28 <GordCaswell> I'm working off my phone atm, otherwise I'd throw it together and upload it.
02:09:10 <JohnTHaller> Was debating releasing an app today. Possibly back to 1 a day again. Well, aiming for that without promising it.
02:10:45 <GordCaswell> Sweet. I'm working my way through the "ready" apps, trying to confirm that they are, indeed, ready.
02:11:10 <GordCaswell> BTW, did you get my bugfix email?
02:11:14 <JohnTHaller> That will be a help. I'm going to try and re-form a release team of sorts as well. Try and figure out the proper tools they need.
02:12:18 <JohnTHaller> I did. DB Browser is on the publisher, so we need to poke them to include it (I don't package it). Sunbird I need to get to. The 3rd point is a yes, we'll do it this week.
02:13:10 <GordCaswell> Ok. Wasn't aware DB Browser was a publisher one.
02:14:04 <GordCaswell> .time
02:15:33 <AluisioASG> .t
02:15:33 <GizmoBot> Mon, 15 Oct 2012 02:15:33 GMT
02:15:59 <GordCaswell> right, wrong code
02:16:04 <GordCaswell> .t cst
02:16:05 <GizmoBot> Sun, 14 Oct 2012 20:16:04 CST
02:16:18 <GordCaswell> .t CDT
02:16:19 <GizmoBot> Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:16:18 CDT
02:16:58 <GordCaswell> that's better. I'm off, be back early afternoon tomorrow CDT.
02:17:07 <JohnTHaller> later GordCaswell
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04:08:22 <AluisioASG> Gwkki gluxon
04:09:01 <gluxon> Hey AluisioASG :)
04:09:08 <gluxon> What does Gwkki mean?
04:10:23 <AluisioASG> <JohnTHaller>Gwkki (gwik-kee) interjection. Used to express greeting
04:10:28 <AluisioASG> Actually, that's what happen what I start by typing the wrong letter :)
04:10:56 <AluisioASG> So H -> G, e -> w, l -> k and o -> i
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05:53:03 <OliverK> it is now 12:51 AM CST. Do you know where your children are?
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06:11:13 <AluisioASG|Away> .t
06:11:14 <GizmoBot> Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:11:13 GMT
06:11:28 <OliverK> .t
06:11:29 <GizmoBot> Mon, 15 Oct 2012 01:11:28 CDT
06:11:36 <AluisioASG|Away> ?
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06:12:32 <OliverK> there's a thing they do on TV locally. One of the news reporters and the head of the city police recording this thing. "Its now 10:00 pm. Do you know where your children are?"
06:12:42 <OliverK> calvin and hobbes also had a comic spoofing it
06:13:54 <AluisioASG> Ah.
06:14:13 <OliverK> I say that every now and then
06:14:17 <AluisioASG> Do you know why did GizmoBot told you the time in CDT?
06:14:50 <OliverK> because there's an alias for OliverK to CDT\CST.
06:14:52 <OliverK> .t OliverK
06:14:53 <GizmoBot> Mon, 15 Oct 2012 01:14:53 CDT
06:14:55 <OliverK> :)
06:15:18 <AluisioASG> ah
06:16:16 <AluisioASG> GizmoBot: tell me all your secrets :O
06:16:29 * OliverK kicks GizmoBot
06:16:30 <GizmoBot> ouch
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06:23:22 <AluisioASG|Away> good night everybody
06:23:29 <OliverK> night
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07:41:00 <pa_3601> help!
07:41:00 <GizmoBot> pa_3601: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
07:42:58 <OliverK> pa_3601: voice the question
07:43:48 <pa_3601> Hello, i have some big Problem with Thunderbird Portable 16.0.1 (Updated from 15.x). Since i "updated", i get the Error Message before starting: Installation aborted, please close all Processes and try to start TB Portable again. I restartet TB Port. 5 times, nothing better. I tried to delete some *.lock Files in my Data\profiles\ folder, but nothing happens. What can i do?
07:44:43 <pa_3601> i have tried to re-update from 16.0.1 to 16.0.1, but no better Results.
07:45:05 <OliverK> weird
07:45:25 <OliverK> i would suggest posting on the forums - someone there will most certainly have the answer
07:45:30 <pa_3601> Thunderbird Portable starts, but with Error Message before starting and in Thunderbird => About Thunderbird Portable displays "to install 16.0.1 please restart Thunderbird".
07:45:39 <pa_3601> ok oliverK
07:46:08 <pa_3601> but i have posted an Thread, nothing answer till now. :(
07:46:29 <pa_3601> http://portableapps.com/node/34807
07:46:38 <OliverK> no? That's surprising.
07:47:00 <OliverK> when you delete the lock files, they don't delete?
07:47:05 <pa_3601> i have started the Tread on 12th Oct (friday)
07:47:31 <OliverK> yes, I'm looking at it, and I see the reply that JTH (John T Haller) posted
07:47:32 <pa_3601> no, when i delete the parent.lock file there delete
07:47:44 <pa_3601> no probs about deleting parent.lock file
07:48:17 <pa_3601> yes, i have tried to solve my problems with help posting from John T, but nothing happens.
07:48:45 <pa_3601> ......and look for something amiss ?
07:49:03 <OliverK> let me look
07:49:06 <pa_3601> ok
07:49:30 <pa_3601> it is possible to post an error file info from thunderbird?
07:50:00 <pa_3601> an information-error-check.txt file or something to better understand my problems for you?
07:50:06 <OliverK> sure - use http://hastebin.com/
07:50:15 <OliverK> no, I think I know whats going on
07:50:39 <pa_3601> ?
07:50:41 <OliverK> is this using the built in updater for thunderbird or are you using a portableapps.com package?
07:50:55 <pa_3601> hmm
07:51:06 <pa_3601> no no
07:51:18 <pa_3601> i always using the portable apps thunderbird portable update
07:51:26 <OliverK> alright
07:51:47 <pa_3601> i know, thunderbird "normal" do make error and aborting with some problems between TB and TB Port.
07:52:35 <pa_3601> i always download the update packages at portableapps and upgrad my portable tb, in-build-updates i have deactivated.
07:52:41 <OliverK> right
07:52:44 <pa_3601> ok
07:52:59 <pa_3601> but tb port. dont tell me, where the problem is
07:53:14 <OliverK> i don't know - I'm checking on google
07:53:21 <pa_3601> on EXTRAS => Error console there are much Errors.
07:53:30 <OliverK> pastebin those
07:53:31 <OliverK> :)
07:53:38 <pa_3601> ok plz wait on moment
07:54:13 <pa_3601> ERROR addons.xpi-utils: SQL error Line 14: unable to open database file
07:55:23 <pa_3601> [Exception..."Component returned failure code: 0x80520012 (NS_Error_file not found)
07:56:48 <pa_3601> [ns]Channel.asyncOpen]" nsresult: "0x80520012 (NS_ERROR_FILE_NOT_FOUND)" location: "JS frame:: resource://GRE/MODULES/NETUTIL.JSM :: NETUTIL_ASYNCOPEN :: LINE 165 DATA: NO
07:57:02 <OliverK> doesn't soud like that is related
07:57:04 <pa_3601> i typed this all, i cant get C&P
07:57:05 <OliverK> sound*
07:57:10 <OliverK> wow
07:57:18 <OliverK> have you rebooted the computer itself?
07:57:27 <pa_3601> yes many times
07:57:42 <pa_3601> i have to tried restart thunderbird without all addons
07:58:17 <pa_3601> i have tried to deinstall delete all addons, but nothing better
07:58:25 <OliverK> okay
07:58:32 <OliverK> rename the "Data" folder
07:58:42 <OliverK> shutdown Thunderbird first
07:58:46 <pa_3601> ok
07:58:49 <OliverK> then rename the data folder
07:59:00 <OliverK> then start thunderbird
07:59:32 <pa_3601> same error
07:59:39 <OliverK> okay
07:59:39 <pa_3601> but no good ^^
07:59:42 <pa_3601> all clear
07:59:45 <OliverK> ?
07:59:46 <pa_3601> nothing accounts ;)
07:59:51 <OliverK> right
07:59:58 <OliverK> but you get the same error
08:00:02 <pa_3601> yes
08:00:10 <OliverK> so, rename the thunderbird portable folder
08:00:20 <OliverK> install a fresh copy of the latest thunderbird portable
08:00:33 <OliverK> and then COPY your "Data" folder over
08:00:57 <pa_3601> ok i will try
08:05:11 <pa_3601> all links, all account with error, some folders are not displayed, same error on startup "Thunderbird does not updated correctly, please close all active Processes and try to restart your TB Portable".....
08:05:36 <pa_3601> is it possible to go back to 15.x version?
08:05:41 <OliverK> yeah
08:05:49 <pa_3601> yeah *happy*
08:05:53 <pa_3601> ?
08:05:59 <OliverK> just download the last 15.x version and then copy over the data folder
08:06:01 <pa_3601> i download update 15.X
08:06:04 <pa_3601> and reinstall it?
08:06:08 <OliverK> yeah
08:06:13 <pa_3601> ok, plz wait one moment
08:06:24 <OliverK> well, install it to a different location
08:07:24 <pa_3601> hmmmm
08:07:30 <pa_3601> where can i get older versions, plz?
08:07:51 <pa_3601> portable apps only serves 16.0.1 and very old 2.1.X versions....
08:08:05 <OliverK> lemme look
08:09:23 <OliverK> blah, this is confusing
08:10:23 <OliverK> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Thunderbird%2C%20P.E./Mozilla%20Thunderbird%2C%20Portable%20Edition%2015.0/ThunderbirdPortable_15.0_English.paf.exe/download
08:10:26 <pa_3601> confusing, yes
08:10:41 <OliverK> yes - and I even know how to get there :D
08:10:49 <OliverK> there's the link you need
08:15:28 <pa_3601> ok, thats confusing
08:15:37 <pa_3601> i update "re"
08:15:55 <pa_3601> from broken 16.0.1 => 15.0
08:16:07 <pa_3601> and still this f****** error message.
08:16:26 <OliverK> yeah, there's something screwed up in your data folder still
08:16:29 <OliverK> :(
08:16:41 <OliverK> I would reply to John's message that you have done that
08:16:45 <pa_3601> yes......
08:16:54 <pa_3601> i have done this right now
08:17:03 <OliverK> also search on windows for any *.lock files and delete those and then try again
08:17:09 <pa_3601> reply John T
08:18:56 <pa_3601> ok OliverK, thank you very much with your time and help
08:19:06 <OliverK> no problem
08:19:11 <pa_3601> in try in free time (moment at work)
08:19:13 <OliverK> sorry I couldn't help you more
08:19:14 <pa_3601> Weekend
08:19:31 <OliverK> that's all we live for anyway
08:19:33 <pa_3601> new install of portable and move some folders and links
08:19:42 <pa_3601> (y)
08:19:46 <pa_3601> thank you!
08:19:48 <pa_3601> bye
08:19:55 <OliverK> bye
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11:27:11 <pa_6592> Hi. I just let PortableApps do its automatic update to 11.2 and now it won't start. I redownloaded the setup file and ran it, but the same result. The USB is ok - I can still read it ok. WinXP SP3. Thanks
11:30:22 <pa_6592> Start.exe has encountered a problem etc - standard Win message. PortableAppsPlatform.exe gives the error 'The application failed to initialize properly (0x0000005).
11:30:50 <pa_6592> Any ideas please? It worked fine until the auto update.
11:32:25 <pa_6592> GizmoBot:
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11:32:47 <pa_6592> Sorry - I'm totally new to this IRC thing.
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17:55:20 <Exile> hey admins i was wondering if i could recommend a software that you guys would put up on the site
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18:01:19 <GordCaswell> Exile: you sure can. The best way for us to see it is to post it in the Request Apps section of our forums, following these guidelines: http://portableapps.com/node/4507
18:07:12 <Exile> im sure u guys've heard of glary utilities
18:07:22 <Exile> there's a portable version of it
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18:10:38 <GordCaswell> Exile: we have it available as a development test: http://portableapps.com/node/20481
18:12:20 <Exile> alright sounds good
18:12:33 <Exile> i usually download it from the cnet website
18:13:01 <Exile> anyways i gotta go, later fellas
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20:21:52 <pa_4875> hi everyone
20:21:57 <pa_4875> I'm trying to post to the forums
20:22:06 <pa_4875> but everything I try to post says it's spam
20:22:27 <pa_4875> what is it that triggers the spam filters all the time?
20:22:32 <GordCaswell> hi pa_4875 . What are you trying to post?
20:22:42 <GordCaswell> lots of things can trigger it.
20:23:00 <pa_4875> a response message to a Silverlight post
20:23:02 <pa_4875> that's all
20:23:10 <pa_4875> no sware words or links
20:23:15 <pa_4875> can I share the text here?
20:23:28 <GordCaswell> can you post your intended message to something like pastebin, and i'll post it on your behalf?
20:23:38 <pa_4875> ok, let me see how to use that
20:23:43 <pa_4875> is it because I just registered?
20:23:50 <pa_4875> do I have to wait before I post?
20:23:55 <GordCaswell> nope
20:24:17 <pa_4875> http://pastebin.com/4v700PtS
20:24:23 <GordCaswell> it could be that your ip address has been used by spammers at some time, before you were assigned that address
20:24:30 <pa_4875> trying to post to http://portableapps.com/comment/reply/14188/183707
20:24:35 <pa_4875> oh, OK
20:24:48 <pa_4875> I do seem to have a general ISP IP, not a personal one...
20:25:11 <pa_4875> let me try through ctunnel.com
20:25:15 <GordCaswell> ok, and what is the topic you're trying to post to?
20:25:54 <pa_4875> uhm, as a response to the guy providing the solution, let me see
20:26:09 <pa_4875> the one with the title simple instructions
20:26:13 <pa_4875> amongst the latest
20:26:27 <pa_4875> september 2011
20:29:33 <pa_4875> thanks man
20:36:37 <GordCaswell> Sorry, but i can't find the specific post you're wanting to reply to
20:39:00 <pa_4875> oh gosh....
20:39:06 <pa_4875> just a second
20:39:15 <pa_4875> http://portableapps.com/comment/reply/14188/183707
20:39:21 <pa_4875> this link that I've posted before should take you to it
20:39:42 <pa_4875> oh wait, it doesn't
20:39:43 <pa_4875> just a sec
20:39:58 <pa_4875> it's the seventh
20:40:01 <pa_4875> from the last post
20:40:02 <pa_4875> towards the first
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