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04:31:38 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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17:04:46 <tweetergal> hi what is the differences between portable.apps application and portable apps created using thininstall?
17:07:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The main difference is PortableApps.com Format (PAF).
17:07:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://portableapps.com/about/what_is_a_portable_app#whypaf
17:08:47 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In addition, given that Thinstall is insanely expensive (IIRC, $5000 per lisence + $50 per portablized application), most "thinstalled" applications are created with a pirated copy and are therefore illegal.
17:09:15 <Sk1llSh0t> i used to use thinstall a lot but it became too much of a hassle to update programs, etc
17:09:41 <Sk1llSh0t> and what tpfc said. haha. a lot of people use it on pirated software
17:10:06 <Sk1llSh0t> thinstall gives flexibility but paf is just easy to manage
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17:45:39 <tweetergal> Sk1llSh0t will there be security concern downloading thininstall app especially browser?
17:49:09 <Sk1llSh0t> it is possible
17:50:19 <Sk1llSh0t> if you download a thinstall app from a website, the creator could very well place a virus/trojan of some kind in the package when the portable program was created.
17:52:09 <tweetergal> I have microsoft security essential installed, so if MS anti virus did not detect any threats
17:52:24 <tweetergal> means the portable app is safe to use?
17:58:16 <Sk1llSh0t> not necessarily
17:58:47 <Sk1llSh0t> there are ways to mask virus signatures. just depends on how knowledgeable the packer is with that stuff
18:00:43 <Sk1llSh0t> it is always a risk to download any executable from the web.
18:01:02 <Sk1llSh0t> for all we know, portableapps is spying on all of us right now :)
18:03:54 <tweetergal> actually I wanted to use google chrome portable, but it uses portablechome.exe name instead of chrome.exe which my dock indicator could not detect the application currently running. wouldnt be a problem thought but it looks kind of weird where all the application that is currently loaded will show indicator except for the portableapps.com one
18:04:24 <tweetergal> and I read that changing the portableapps.exe name to the same as the process one will break the portable apps.
18:07:18 <Sk1llSh0t> i haven't tried that. you'd need one of the developers to answer that question. i actually installed chromeportable this morning to test a website and it ran fine.
18:07:47 <Sk1llSh0t> why would portablechrome act differently than the other portable apps you use i wonder?
18:08:48 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sk1llSh0t: because of multiple instance detection.
18:09:08 <Sk1llSh0t> ah
18:09:20 <Sk1llSh0t> makes sense
18:09:27 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Google Chrome Portable launcher attempts to detect if Chrome is already running, and will detect itself if it's renamed to chrome.exe.
18:10:53 <Sk1llSh0t> so why would the "dock indicator" not detect the application?
18:11:21 <Sk1llSh0t> i'm assuming the taskbar
18:12:51 <tweetergal> TPFC-SYSTEM, any side effect for changing the name to chrome.exe ? will it cause the launcher not saving any changes ?
18:13:29 <tweetergal> Sk1llSh0t it's object dock, it's like mac os bar.. on windows OS.. not detecting due to different process name.
18:14:15 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I don't know. The most likely outcome is refusal to start.
18:14:32 <tweetergal> it started fine
18:15:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Okay, then I simply don't know which side effects there are (if any).
18:22:19 <Sk1llSh0t> oh. i haven't used that
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20:56:48 <prateekbala> help
20:56:48 <GizmoBot> prateekbala: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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22:42:49 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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22:42:55 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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23:32:21 <pa_9407> Is there a way to see other docs in the menu like other than exe file type ?
23:32:52 <pa_9407> iv been searching
23:34:58 <pa_9407> i want it to show whatever i put in it from links because links from one pc most of the time is the same or if i have a doc in the menu the pc would know how to open it
23:35:35 <pa_9407> like file explorer
23:35:54 <pa_9407> with the app dir
23:36:31 <pa_9407> so the it would not limit what u see to exe files
23:36:36 <pa_9407> ????
23:37:43 <pa_9407> yall should add because i see this app as a new menu for windows 8 cross platform as far as you can see
23:37:56 <pa_9407> get the picture
23:38:22 <pa_9407> point me in right direction
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