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06:15:09 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
06:15:15 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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09:27:11 <wolfe.freenode.net> Users on #portableapps: palogbot TPFC-SYSTEM +ZachThibeau ronjn papingbot +gluxon Bry8Star ParkerR_ Guest68589 Htbrdd +Gizmokid2005 +GizmoBot z3uS Venusaur Espreon
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10:21:13 <pa_7025> hello
10:21:42 <pa_7025> I bring not the portable app on the android phone
10:21:56 <pa_7025> can you my help?
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10:23:32 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Not much patience, I see. :(
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11:50:24 <m3b> mornin any one up?
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13:13:29 <m3b> anyone awake?
13:17:48 <TPFC-SYSTEM> m3b: At least I am.
13:19:46 <m3b> sweet ne clue how to optomize a 64GB San Disk like u would degfragment or does a simple chkdsk do it?
13:20:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Is it a thumb drive?
13:30:59 <m3b> yes
13:31:33 <m3b> sorry trying to juggle 20things at a time it's a 64 thumb drive and I run the hell outta it and sync it
13:32:15 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In that case, don't defragment. It barely improves performance at all, but causes wear and tear, reducing its lifetime.
13:32:32 <TPFC-SYSTEM> (its = drive's)
13:32:33 <m3b> ok; wwhat the average life
13:33:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I don't know. Vendors usually promise that the drives last for a long time, but running portable applications causes much more load than "normal" usage.
14:41:10 <m3b> Anyone know ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT PNotes :~~(((
14:42:02 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I don't, unfortunately. :(
14:43:08 <m3b> that's kewl how bout uTorrent or what are ur favorite portable apps
14:43:15 <m3b> letZ Share ;D
14:44:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I don't understand. :-?
15:02:16 <m3b> sorry i suffer from Schizoaffective Disorder / BiPolar Disorder
15:02:23 <m3b> lil hard to understand
15:02:56 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Alright...
15:03:00 * TPFC-SYSTEM is afraid
15:03:42 <m3b> u know about freefilesync / texture "dink that's how u spell it" / pidgin / OpenWithView -> Fixes the problem with Windows 7 not keeping file types to open w/ portable applications
15:03:53 <m3b> HEHE I'm like Michael Myeres :D
15:04:39 <m3b> ahh it's texter
15:05:06 <m3b> all but OpenWithView is available @ http://www.portableapps.com/ <- GREAT WEB SITE
15:07:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I simply live without portable file associations. First start the application and then open the file.
15:14:08 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I got to go. Cheers!
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15:55:54 <pa_2990> Hello everyone. I have the portable apps application on my USB, and after installing it, I want it so it automatically opens when I insert my USB
15:55:58 <pa_2990> How do I do this?
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15:56:08 <pa_2990> help!
15:56:08 <GizmoBot> pa_2990: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
15:57:20 <pa_2990> Hello everyone. I have the portable apps application on my USB, and after installing it, I want it so it automatically opens when I insert my. How do I do this?
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21:19:21 <thasmo> help! I created an appinfo.ini file and I'd like to launch an EXE program using the [Control] section of the ini file but pass some parameters to the EXE? Is this possible?
21:40:56 <gluxon> thasmo: I don't think that supports arguments.
21:41:03 <gluxon> It's not designed to.
21:41:57 <thasmo> gluxon, I see. Found something on the new using *.vbs files to open exe files with arguments.
21:42:33 <gluxon> thasmo: I'm confused then, what's your question?
21:43:08 <thasmo> gluxon, I want to start an EXE file with parameters using the PortableApps Launcher
21:44:23 <gluxon> thasmo: So you're trying to generate a Launcher executable? http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/
21:45:01 <thasmo> gluxon, nah - actually I got an exe file from a program which I want to start with parameters using the launcher.
21:46:23 <gluxon> We might have a confusion. Are you referring to the Menu or Launcher?
21:46:53 <thasmo> gluxon, ow sorry - I guess I mean the Menu then.
21:47:02 <gluxon> Ok, that makes better sense.
21:47:05 <thasmo> :>
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21:48:55 <gluxon> thasmo: So, you have a vbs script to start another file?
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21:49:33 <thasmo> gluxon, that's what I tried at last, but it still opens a CMD window besides the desired exe.
21:51:16 <gluxon> thasmo: When you said "*.vbs", are you reffering to a VBScript?
21:51:21 <gluxon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VBScript
21:52:17 <thasmo> gluxon, yes I guess so. I copied it from somewhere. :>
21:52:33 <thasmo> It calls something like .... "Set oShell = CreateObject ("Wscript.Shell")"
21:52:35 <thasmo> and then ..
21:52:39 <gluxon> thasmo: The issue then appears to be with the VBScript.
21:52:41 <thasmo> "oShell.Run ..."
21:53:21 <gluxon> I don't think I can help with that though, since I'm not very familiar with how VBScripts run.
21:54:46 <thasmo> gluxon, would it be possible to use the launcher to call the exe file with parameters?
21:54:58 <gluxon> Yes.
21:55:06 <gluxon> You would have to create a launcher ini.
21:55:24 <gluxon> thasmo: Do you want me to guide you through that?
21:55:28 <thasmo> gluxon, is it complicated? Do I need programming skills or some type of programming environment set up?
21:55:34 <gluxon> Not really.
21:55:42 <gluxon> All you need is the PortableApps Launcher Generator.
21:55:51 <gluxon> And about 3 lines of INI code.
21:56:08 <gluxon> Grab it here -> http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_launcher
21:56:25 <thasmo> gluxon, basically I want to make cygwin portable and, if possible, maybe as PAC app I guess.
21:56:49 <gluxon> thasmo: Your best bet is to use the Launcher then.
21:57:39 <thasmo> gluxon, launcher wants to install on Desktop - thats ok?
21:57:56 <gluxon> Anywhere writable is fine. Desktop is ok.
21:58:09 <thasmo> k
21:58:12 <thasmo> done and launched
21:58:13 <gluxon> After it's installed, go into App\AppInfo
21:58:23 <thasmo> yep
21:58:24 <gluxon> Of the app you want to create the shortcut.
21:58:40 <gluxon> Create a new folder and call it "Launcher"
21:58:58 <gluxon> Then create a file, call it CygwinPortable.ini
21:59:27 <thasmo> k
21:59:37 <gluxon> At the top type in this.
21:59:39 <gluxon> [Launcher]
21:59:56 <thasmo> yep
22:00:04 <gluxon> ProgramExecutable=cygwin\customEXE.exe -someparameters
22:00:23 <gluxon> ProgramExecutable= starts looking from the App folder.
22:00:35 <gluxon> So if you have App\cygwin\cygwin.exe type in cygwin\cygwin.exe
22:00:42 <gluxon> And enter your parameters after that.
22:01:03 <thasmo> gluxon, where would I put all Cygwin files? in the root directly or under App/CygwinPortable ?
22:01:19 <gluxon> Under App\cygwin
22:01:37 <thasmo> ah k
22:02:44 <gluxon> In App\AppInfo create an appinfo.ini file.
22:03:22 <gluxon> Then go here -> http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format#appinfo
22:03:35 <gluxon> Copy the example in the text field and fill it out.
22:03:40 <gluxon> For your own appinfo.ini
22:04:04 <gluxon> Once that's done, start the PortableApps.com Launcher Generator and point it at the CygwinPortable folder
22:06:10 <thasmo> k lemme clean up some stuff first, im on it. one sec.
22:10:23 <thasmo> k k k
22:10:29 <thasmo> fine, starting the launcher now
22:12:10 <thasmo> k its running
22:13:08 <thasmo> looks like this could take some time
22:13:35 <thasmo> well lemme retry.
22:13:39 <thasmo> actually when I start it
22:13:42 <thasmo> there's an error
22:13:56 <thasmo> gluxon, it says "NSIS was not found!"
22:14:52 <thasmo> gonna install this now
22:17:36 <thasmo> gluxon, fails - in the log it says
22:17:58 <thasmo> "Error while loading icon from "C:\...\PortableApps\CygwinPortable\App\AppInfo\appicon.ico": can't open file"
22:19:18 <thasmo> ah
22:19:25 <thasmo> copied an icon there and now it worked
22:23:03 <thasmo> k needed to change some more things but now it works - now I needa figure out how to properly wire everything together.
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22:28:28 <thasmo> gluxon, thats weird. if I start the app from the menu it opens 2 cmd.exe windows + the desired app. why is that? maybe I need to reinstall it?!
22:29:29 <thasmo> now it says deinstallation not possible oO
22:29:59 <thasmo> ah k worked now
22:32:00 <thasmo> still opening the app from the menu spawns 2 additional and unwanted cmd.exec windows. weird.
22:34:09 <thasmo> ah if I start it with admin rights its fine. ... even weirder :D
22:37:30 <thasmo> gluxon, can I run the exe file with admin rights automatically somehow?
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22:48:33 <thasmo> Does anybody know if I can start an app from the menu with admin rights by default? maybe it is configurable?
22:51:09 <thasmo> ah probably http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/ref/launcher.ini/launch.html#runasadmin
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