IRC Log from 2013-05-18
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01:49:52 <helix_> Hi all
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01:50:45 <gluxon> Well hello.
01:50:56 <Guest4271> is someone available to answer to my question?
01:51:50 <gluxon> Guest4271: Sure thing. Shoot.
01:53:44 <Guest4271> i want to now, if portable apps use a different directory other than the one in which is setup
01:53:50 <Guest4271> know*
01:54:14 <gluxon> Not sure what you mean by that.
01:54:42 <gluxon> A different temporary folder may be used on the system, but it all goes back into AppNamePortable\Data
01:55:49 <Guest4271> it mean for example, google chrome portable can use a folder in windows, like "roaming" to store the cache for example ?
01:57:22 <gluxon> Guest4271: It does.
01:57:40 <gluxon> Although it is cleaned up after you close Chrome Portable.
01:58:06 <Guest4271> Hmmm ok i understand
01:59:07 <Guest4271> is there a solution to keep all files from a portable apps only inside his portable folder ?
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02:05:41 <Guest4271> Are you afk or you haven't the answer ?
02:05:55 <gluxon> Yeah, sorry.
02:06:01 <gluxon> There is not.
02:06:21 <gluxon> A solution would require administrative privileges to sandbox applications.
02:06:45 <gluxon> We don't do anything here that would require administrative privileges since it would render apps useless on public computers.
02:06:53 <gluxon> So it is a technical limitation in Windows.
02:09:35 <Guest4271> Ok it's logical
02:11:17 <Guest4271> So can I specify another folder for external files or anything else to avoid use the system folder ?
02:13:36 <Guest4271> in fact, I don't want the software use any folder on the main drive where the system is install on
02:13:38 <gluxon> Not without modifying source code.
02:16:05 <Guest4271> I can try to do this... but i haven't enough time...
02:17:03 <gluxon> I can see your concern.
02:18:02 <Guest4271> Can you use another words please ^^ i'm sorry i don't understand you this time
02:20:06 <Guest4271> It's ok google traduction help me !
02:20:53 <Guest4271> I actually thank you if you can help me for that =)
02:21:50 <gluxon> That was a bit idiomatic I guess. I meant that I understand why you would be kind of be worried about writing to the system drive but not much can be done about it.
02:24:06 <Guest4271> i have to do some improvements about my english !
02:25:36 <Guest4271> Ok, thank you for answering my question !
02:27:15 <Guest4271> Just a last question, do you if conversation from Skype in portable version is store on system drive ?
02:27:19 <Guest4271> know*
02:28:13 <gluxon> I do not.
02:28:21 <gluxon> I would be surprised if it was though.
02:28:33 <gluxon> That information should only be stored online and in computer memory.
02:31:21 <Guest4271> When you say computer memory you mean in apps folder or in "roaming" for example ?
02:31:34 <gluxon> I mean RAM
02:31:50 <Guest4271> Oh ok !
02:31:53 <gluxon> Anything there should not be recoverable.
02:32:08 <gluxon> If you see it on your screen, it is in ram obviously :)
02:32:28 <Guest4271> That's right
02:33:41 <Guest4271> So in portable version of Skype, we have not historical conversation ?
02:34:04 <Guest4271> or apps download last conversion at every switch on ?
02:34:49 <gluxon> Let me double check that.
02:39:25 <gluxon> I'll need a more thorough investigation. Assume for the moment it does if privacy is extremely important.
02:41:31 <Guest4271> Ok so i assume portable Skype doesn't write on system drive
02:42:14 <Guest4271> it seems to be quite logical
02:44:06 <Guest4271> Do you know where can i find portable chrome sources ? they are anywhere on portableapps.com...
03:16:04 <gluxon> Try ChromePortable\Other\Source
03:16:06 <gluxon> It's all in there.
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04:19:40 <Guest4271> ok i'll look that later. Thank you for all
04:19:44 <Guest4271> Bye
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05:57:25 <GizmoBot> TPFC-SYSTEM is the author of http://code.google.com/p/project-invincible/
05:57:25 <GizmoBot> TPFC-SYSTEM is the author of http://code.google.com/p/project-invincible/
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08:29:29 <m3b> ne one around?
08:32:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> At least I am online.
08:41:49 <m3b> right on; your know anything about foobar or what is your expertise
08:47:16 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sorry, I have never used foobar. :(
08:51:00 <m3b> what all do you do? or good at?
08:52:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Right now I'm an IT student and a part-time web developer.
08:52:56 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'll soon be an IT engineer. :) I hope that I'll be a game programmer in the future.
08:53:02 <TPFC-SYSTEM> What about you?
08:55:21 <m3b> http://www.meb-tech.com/m3b/mebs-resume.pdf
08:55:29 <m3b> IT Specialist / WEB Developer
08:55:39 <m3b> what programs are you familiar with
08:58:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Regarding development tools: NetBeans, git, GitLab (web app), Rake, Visual Studio, Subversion, TortoiseSVN, AnkhSVN.
08:59:37 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Regarding normal software, see http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?q=%5BSYSTEM%5D&m=&so=p .
09:05:23 <m3b> sweet whats a good program opensource other than kompozer to develop web sites in
09:05:35 <m3b> u got time to talk or
09:06:37 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes, I have got time. Friday is a day off in my part-time job.
09:07:19 <m3b> cool; sorry about my long ass resume
09:07:19 <TPFC-SYSTEM> For a WYSIWYG editor, absolutely BlueGriffon: http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=2200
09:07:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It's open source and still actively developed, unlike its precedessors (Nvu and KompoZer).
09:08:46 <TPFC-SYSTEM> If you don't want a WYSIWYG editor (they often produce bad markup), you can pick any text editor. I use Notepad++ myself.
09:11:41 <m3b> i can script HTML and CSS outta my head I just suck at Math
09:12:54 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Eh? I don't think you need much math in web development.
09:16:39 <m3b> like positiong etc
09:16:54 <m3b> like if I design a site 800x600
09:17:19 <m3b> the hdr <div> height / width then the side nav height weight
09:18:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Ah, I see.
09:18:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> We use Bootstrap's grid system: http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#gridSystem
09:18:41 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Thanks to it, the only math we need for positioning is addition and subtraction.
09:19:29 <TPFC-SYSTEM> (For example: one div takes 3 and the other 5 columns. That means that 12-(3+5)=4 columns are remaining.)
09:20:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> ("We" = I and my employer, not PortableApps.com).
09:26:37 <m3b> sweet hey I'll be right back joiing my WORKGROUP at work so I can rape their printer
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09:40:13 <m3b> I'm back man you still around?
09:40:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes.
09:42:17 <m3b> sweet u know anything about TheGIMP
09:43:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I use it sometimes. It's my secondary image editor.
09:43:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The primary is PhotoFiltre, but it can't be used for commercial purposes.
09:45:46 <m3b> hrmm that sux; I own PhotoShop CS... It doesn't like Windows 7 much
09:46:22 <m3b> here's my problem in TheGIMP maybe u might have a clue
09:47:33 <TPFC-SYSTEM> ?
09:49:14 <m3b> Eh I was wondering is there an add-on for TheGIMP; where when you apply a filter and make changes while the filter dialog is open that you could see in real-time the changes it makes to the current image your editing?
09:49:51 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sorry, I don't know if there is such a plugin. :(
09:54:02 <m3b> ah or addon; I got an addon to allow TheGIMP to use Photoshop Plugins
09:54:36 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In any case, I don't know. Haven't had a need for that feature.
10:01:05 <m3b> cool I'm gonna look @ your work on portableapps.com
10:01:36 <m3b> I HIGHLY RESPECT YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE PORTABLE APP REVOLUTION
10:02:12 <m3b> I carry a 64GB Flash Drive w/ all my personal data; business data; and proggies
10:02:59 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Well, actually I am not a PortableApps.com developer. Just an user who is interested in portable applications.
10:03:31 <TPFC-SYSTEM> My main contribution to the portable app community is that I'm one of the maintainers of *another* portable app site: http://www.portablefreeware.com/
10:04:18 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Anyway, I'm waiting for the portable app revolution as well. :)
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10:16:45 <m3b> no shit it's coming from 1995 until now; I've learned NOT to trust computer
10:17:35 <m3b> I use FreeFile Sync to Sync atleast 3 64GB Flash Drives for my main stuph
10:32:02 <m3b> fawk gotta do the Daily Reports then set out the breakfest brb...
10:48:52 <m3b> where do you live dude
10:48:57 <m3b> i live in Gillette, WY
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12:45:54 <pabot> Hi pa_8876! Welcome to the PortableApps.com IRC channel. Please ask your question and someone should be with you shortly. If you do not receive an answer wait a bit longer or consider posting it on the forums.
12:46:35 <pa_8876> i have a question. is any form to download an old version of a portable app?
12:47:49 <pa_8876> or downgrade an app?
12:54:08 <pa_8876> nevermind, i found it.
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13:09:11 <m3b> hi TPFC-SYSTEM; you around still by chance?
13:09:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes, I am.
13:12:30 <m3b> sweet sweet;
13:12:46 <m3b> lemme get that WYSIWYG editor you mentioned and check it out;
13:13:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sure.
13:13:29 <m3b> hey want to swap contact info; and know anythang bout Pidgin/Hexchat or Clonespy
13:14:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I live in Helsinki, Finland.
13:14:34 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I have used Pidgin in the past but no longer use it.
13:14:46 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I haven't used Hexchat or Clonespy.
13:15:31 <m3b> ah damn; Pidgin starts runs fine then crashes for no reason, and the other too I can figure out ;)
13:17:30 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It may be a corrupted profile. You could try renaming the PidginPortable\Data directory. (You'd have to reconfigure Pidgin after that, though.)
13:23:54 <m3b> ok; it accepts or allows it to be installed over the current installation without losing anything
13:25:37 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Do you mean Pidgin? Remember that if your profile is corrupted, installing over retains the corrupted profile and therefore doesn't help at all.
13:26:29 <m3b> ah ok; the profiles i.e. user accounts etc... ya I remember now
13:27:56 <m3b> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXspZLtU7-Q
13:28:00 <m3b> HAHAHA
13:28:07 <m3b> got a FaceBook Account
13:28:17 <m3b> matthewbecker81 is mine
13:28:51 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Nope, I don't have one.
13:29:05 <m3b> cool email?
13:29:27 <m3b> meb@cmpwebdesign.com names Matthew Becker got a Yahoo or AOL?
13:29:59 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I have an Yahoo account but haven't logged in for a long time.
13:32:56 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I invited you into an IRC channel I just created. (Creating channels is easy - just attempt to join an nonexistent channel.)
13:36:46 <m3b> oh ya I don't have my new site done, I have ADDHD and I'm Schizoaffective Disorder / BiPolar Disorder so I have some problems learning but my friends finally taught me the proper way to have a vertically expanding <div> layer, as well as the float: proper position
13:37:41 <m3b> ok could you send me an email; my replacement at work just got here so I gotta pack up or just say it in the channel and I'll be in the channel in 25min
13:40:06 <m3b> so do I
13:41:22 <m3b> undiagnosed well diagnosed from a lady from the Childerns Development Services I attened for 9years of my childhood; and a placment exam from 1986 they forgot to destroy YAY FOR ME
13:46:16 <m3b> ok dude whats your first name mines Matthew
13:47:17 <TPFC-SYSTEM> my first name is Jyrki.
13:47:30 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I have a feeling this discussion is becoming too personal...
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14:00:40 <m3b> haha
14:01:10 <m3b> no worries; I don't have many friends due to my disabilities; and this town sux and my other friends have grown apart
14:01:32 <m3b> hey ill be back on in 25min; you think you'll be around?
14:02:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes, I will. :)
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16:00:36 <m3b> Hi TPFC-System
16:02:45 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi m3b
16:03:17 <m3b> whats sawp dude? where the hell r u from I'm from Gillette, WY USA
16:03:43 <TPFC-SYSTEM> As I said, I'm from Helsinki, Finland, North Europe.
16:03:58 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm reading feeds at the moment.
16:04:42 <m3b> shit I've been up since 4:30pm yesterday gonna do a whole day working on a lil project gotta organize software for the site and then do the graphix
16:05:06 <m3b> right on my moms from Veinna Austria; and my Step Moms from Holland
16:05:15 <m3b> ok take you time hit me up when your on
16:05:48 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I can chat and read feeds simultaneously. No problem. :)
16:06:30 <m3b> elite
16:06:44 <m3b> check out my facebook and you can seee my office
16:07:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm sorry to hear how long you've been awake. (I already realized that when you said you're from the USA; I know it was night there).
16:08:29 <m3b> ya I work nights as a Night Auditor so... I'm use to it today is gonna be a good day gonna party it up a little bit
16:56:55 <m3b> so what time is it where u are at?
16:57:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It's 20 o'clock here.
16:58:12 <m3b> lol how about in a 24hour period it's 11:00AM here
17:14:26 <m3b> so about 8:00AM?
17:15:07 <TPFC-SYSTEM> No, 8:00PM.
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17:50:14 <m3b> ah shit
17:50:30 <m3b> lol sorry ur up at a normal time I'm a vampire LoL
17:51:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> :D
17:56:15 <m3b> :D hey would you happen to know a good portable app that finds duplicate files I was trying to use clonespy but I don't think it's the one I want
17:57:43 <TPFC-SYSTEM> There are a lot of portable duplicate file checkers: http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?sc=77&so=p
17:57:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I don't know which of them are good, though.
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18:07:03 <m3b> i know I have lotsa eexperience with portableapps.com but I'm intrigued by portablefreeware.com
18:07:07 <m3b> it's much more massive
18:07:50 <TPFC-SYSTEM> As far as I know, the largest portable application databse on the Internet. :P
18:07:57 <TPFC-SYSTEM> *database
18:09:15 <m3b> sweet sweet
18:10:01 <m3b> did you ever get a chance to checkout my resume or my web design company website if you care; it all goes towards my new project I'll share with you
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18:29:34 <TPFC-SYSTEM> m3b: I did check out your resume but not the website of your company.
18:29:57 <TPFC-SYSTEM> BTW, remember that there are other people in this channel (and that the channel is logged).
18:34:07 <n00mada> exit
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18:35:34 <m3b> http://www.cmpwebdesign.com/
18:36:04 <m3b> i have nothing to hide; I'm the pee-on of the computer world I'm cheaper than anyone
18:39:59 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I have looked at your site. I think it's OK.
18:40:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Other than the "Links" link that gives me a 404.
18:40:44 <Gizmokid2005> I was going to say, the links page 404s
18:40:54 <Gizmokid2005> and the layout moves as you go between the pages
18:40:58 <Gizmokid2005> which is a huge pet peeve of mine...
18:41:15 <Gizmokid2005> On your homepage you have an indent in the first paragraph, but nowhere else..
18:41:27 <Gizmokid2005> and your line spacing isn't consistent...
18:41:35 <Gizmokid2005> nor is your font?
18:47:07 <m3b> i know it was all thrown together quickly
18:47:37 <m3b> http://www.meb-tech.com/m3b/ is my new homepage none of the links work, my friends helped me with the css
18:52:25 <m3b> i don't mind you pointing out my weak points in my design that's how one learns
18:58:10 <Guest62510> m3b: That white font... -.-
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19:04:09 <m3b> ya I could make it a shade of grey
19:04:25 <gluxon> That's not really the solution.
19:04:41 <gluxon> It's completely illegible.
19:04:44 <m3b> any idea's
19:05:01 <gluxon> Nope. :(
19:05:02 <gluxon> Sorry.
19:05:08 <m3b> ok i have a program named color schemer
19:05:15 <m3b> I'm found of #00ff00
19:05:24 <m3b> it's terminal green
19:08:18 <m3b> ill play around with it; maybe a semi transparent gradient
19:08:25 <m3b> or something fun
19:10:18 <gluxon> m3b: If the purpose of your frontpage is to gain employers, I don't think it will do a good job.
19:10:34 <gluxon> Employers prefer the resume style and bulleted experience.
19:14:04 <m3b> ya it was just something to show off I combined several resumes...
19:14:17 <m3b> sorry I'm well NO excuse a little odd...
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