IRC Log from 2013-07-26

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01:44:42 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
01:44:42 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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03:11:34 <pabot> Hi pa_8659! Welcome to the PortableApps.com IRC channel. Please ask your question and someone should be with you shortly. If you do not receive an answer wait a bit longer or consider posting it on the forums.
03:11:34 <pabot> Hi pa_8659! Welcome to the PortableApps.com IRC channel. Please ask your question and someone should be with you shortly. If you do not receive an answer wait a bit longer or consider posting it on the forums.
03:12:52 <pa_8659> Hello, how can I get all the portable apps in one shot? ( I mean download )
03:12:52 <pa_8659> Hello, how can I get all the portable apps in one shot? ( I mean download )
03:13:25 <gluxon> pa_8659: Download the platform first.
03:13:25 <gluxon> pa_8659: Download the platform first.
03:13:39 <gluxon> Then open up the Apps Directory and check everything. :)
03:13:39 <gluxon> Then open up the Apps Directory and check everything. :)
03:13:50 <gluxon> I'm going to warn you that that's a huge download though.
03:13:50 <gluxon> I'm going to warn you that that's a huge download though.
03:14:17 <pa_8659> there is no iso or zip of all apps?
03:14:17 <pa_8659> there is no iso or zip of all apps?
03:15:27 <gluxon> pa_8659: No. An ISO or ZIP of everything is too hard to manage and keep up to date (since apps update very frequently here).
03:15:27 <gluxon> pa_8659: No. An ISO or ZIP of everything is too hard to manage and keep up to date (since apps update very frequently here).
03:15:52 <gluxon> And a request to download everything isn't too common, so it ends up not being worthwhile to have someone do the work for that.
03:15:52 <gluxon> And a request to download everything isn't too common, so it ends up not being worthwhile to have someone do the work for that.
03:16:18 <pa_8659> ok thank you very much
03:16:18 <pa_8659> ok thank you very much
03:16:30 <pa_8659> good day
03:16:30 <pa_8659> good day
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04:50:34 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
04:50:34 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
05:15:14 <ZachThibeau> hey gluxon
05:15:14 <ZachThibeau> hey gluxon
05:18:31 <gluxon> Good... well.. morning ZachThibeau. :)
05:18:31 <gluxon> Good... well.. morning ZachThibeau. :)
05:18:51 <ZachThibeau> yes morning indeed
05:18:51 <ZachThibeau> yes morning indeed
05:19:23 <ZachThibeau> brb rebooting
05:19:23 <ZachThibeau> brb rebooting
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05:21:04 <ZachThibeau> back for now
05:21:04 <ZachThibeau> back for now
05:21:09 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: Whoo. :)
05:21:09 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: Whoo. :)
05:21:39 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: I would go to sleep but.. 1. I am very close to finishing a project and 2. My gf is online. Yeah, that's about it. :)
05:21:39 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: I would go to sleep but.. 1. I am very close to finishing a project and 2. My gf is online. Yeah, that's about it. :)
05:21:57 <ZachThibeau> lol I hear you
05:21:57 <ZachThibeau> lol I hear you
05:22:25 <ZachThibeau> I've been working on features and ideas for PChat and trying to get back into the groove of things
05:22:25 <ZachThibeau> I've been working on features and ideas for PChat and trying to get back into the groove of things
05:22:44 <gluxon> Awesome.
05:22:44 <gluxon> Awesome.
05:24:21 <ZachThibeau> even going as far as testing other clients and seeing what I can get from them and how I could use those ideas to enhance PChat
05:24:21 <ZachThibeau> even going as far as testing other clients and seeing what I can get from them and how I could use those ideas to enhance PChat
05:25:05 <gluxon> All developers should do that. :)
05:25:05 <gluxon> All developers should do that. :)
05:26:14 <ZachThibeau> for a while I was bent on wxwidgets, and I still think it's a better toolkit but qt5 has some... features that I could make use of
05:26:14 <ZachThibeau> for a while I was bent on wxwidgets, and I still think it's a better toolkit but qt5 has some... features that I could make use of
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05:26:43 <gluxon> I was pretty bent on trying to get the hang of wxWidgets too for a while.
05:26:43 <gluxon> I was pretty bent on trying to get the hang of wxWidgets too for a while.
05:26:51 <gluxon> I never found the time to actually get into it though.
05:26:51 <gluxon> I never found the time to actually get into it though.
05:27:03 <ZachThibeau> I'm pretty profficient at it but qt has webkit
05:27:03 <ZachThibeau> I'm pretty profficient at it but qt has webkit
05:27:11 <gluxon> Pretty soon, I just decided to go ahead and create GUI's in web technologies.
05:27:11 <gluxon> Pretty soon, I just decided to go ahead and create GUI's in web technologies.
05:27:19 <ZachThibeau> and I can do custom themes in the chat window :P
05:27:19 <ZachThibeau> and I can do custom themes in the chat window :P
05:27:26 <gluxon> Since it was easy and the GUI isn't usually the hard part of my code that I want to spend time on.
05:27:26 <gluxon> Since it was easy and the GUI isn't usually the hard part of my code that I want to spend time on.
05:27:32 <gluxon> Whoo. :)
05:27:32 <gluxon> Whoo. :)
05:27:43 <gluxon> Qt lets you draw your entire app in webkit?
05:27:43 <gluxon> Qt lets you draw your entire app in webkit?
05:28:08 <ZachThibeau> why would I want to do that?
05:28:08 <ZachThibeau> why would I want to do that?
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05:28:39 <gluxon> Dunno. :P
05:28:40 <gluxon> Dunno. :P
05:28:47 <ZachThibeau> and if you want it has a html5 project setting or through the use of qml the making of coding much easier
05:28:47 <ZachThibeau> and if you want it has a html5 project setting or through the use of qml the making of coding much easier
05:28:56 <gluxon> I misinterpreted "custom themes in the chat window".
05:28:56 <gluxon> I misinterpreted "custom themes in the chat window".
05:29:10 <gluxon> As something webkit provided, but it became clear after I reread what you meant.
05:29:10 <gluxon> As something webkit provided, but it became clear after I reread what you meant.
05:35:04 <ZachThibeau> I'd be using webkit to render the conversation in html and the template would be themable like if you are familiar with adium it's a frontend for libpurple on osx then that's pretty much what I am going for
05:35:04 <ZachThibeau> I'd be using webkit to render the conversation in html and the template would be themable like if you are familiar with adium it's a frontend for libpurple on osx then that's pretty much what I am going for
05:35:14 <ZachThibeau> but in a simpler way
05:35:14 <ZachThibeau> but in a simpler way
05:36:14 <gluxon> Sounds sweet. :)
05:36:14 <gluxon> Sounds sweet. :)
05:36:53 <ZachThibeau> I'm hoping so lol
05:36:53 <ZachThibeau> I'm hoping so lol
05:53:39 <ZachThibeau> found an interesting shim, a wrapper of gtk cto be used in qt, in essence be compiling your gtk code against qt using wrapper functions o_O
05:53:39 <ZachThibeau> found an interesting shim, a wrapper of gtk cto be used in qt, in essence be compiling your gtk code against qt using wrapper functions o_O
05:54:18 <gluxon> O_o
05:54:18 <gluxon> O_o
05:58:05 <ZachThibeau> yeah, contacting the author to see if he still has the code, he said it's fairly complete but that was back in 2011, emailed him to see if he was still working on it or not
05:58:05 <ZachThibeau> yeah, contacting the author to see if he still has the code, he said it's fairly complete but that was back in 2011, emailed him to see if he was still working on it or not
06:00:39 <ZachThibeau> if he still has it and if it still works I could essentially compile PChat against qt and just continue with gtk coding style xD
06:00:39 <ZachThibeau> if he still has it and if it still works I could essentially compile PChat against qt and just continue with gtk coding style xD
06:00:43 <ZachThibeau> irony lol
06:00:43 <ZachThibeau> irony lol
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12:15:54 <pa_2171> hey, i have an updated start screen for libreoffice portable in correct resolution of 800x600. How can i provide that to you so you can update it at libreoffice page? URL to grafic: http://cdn.portableapps.com/LibreOfficePortable_small.png
12:15:54 <pa_2171> hey, i have an updated start screen for libreoffice portable in correct resolution of 800x600. How can i provide that to you so you can update it at libreoffice page? URL to grafic: http://cdn.portableapps.com/LibreOfficePortable_small.png
12:16:16 <pa_2171> screenshot was for libreoffice 4.0
12:16:16 <pa_2171> screenshot was for libreoffice 4.0
12:17:08 <pa_2171> ah.. sorry, of course the right url is "http://cdn.portableapps.com/LibreOfficePortable.png"; :)
12:17:08 <pa_2171> ah.. sorry, of course the right url is "http://cdn.portableapps.com/LibreOfficePortable.png"; :)
12:30:57 <pa_2171> you can download it by ourself on http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/libreofficeportg7n5mr4hsq.png
12:30:57 <pa_2171> you can download it by ourself on http://img3.fotos-hochladen.net/uploads/libreofficeportg7n5mr4hsq.png
12:32:26 <pa_2171> thx and have a nice day
12:32:26 <pa_2171> thx and have a nice day
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13:28:19 <Rico319> i was trying to create my own app, downloaded PortableApps.com Application Template 2.4 and was confused as to why the required text files were not in the required folders to direct newbies in the proper way to make this happen.
13:28:19 <Rico319> i was trying to create my own app, downloaded PortableApps.com Application Template 2.4 and was confused as to why the required text files were not in the required folders to direct newbies in the proper way to make this happen.
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13:34:13 <Rico319> no matter what I tried -- i got 2 errors. missing debug.nsh and missing custom.nsh -- no clue as to dealing with these errors??
13:34:13 <Rico319> no matter what I tried -- i got 2 errors. missing debug.nsh and missing custom.nsh -- no clue as to dealing with these errors??
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13:38:26 <GordCaswell> Rico319, if the app builds regardless of those errors, it's ok. the launcher looks for those files whether they're needed or not.
13:38:26 <GordCaswell> Rico319, if the app builds regardless of those errors, it's ok. the launcher looks for those files whether they're needed or not.
13:39:14 <Rico319> the app does not build -- it fails because of those errors -- every time.
13:39:14 <Rico319> the app does not build -- it fails because of those errors -- every time.
13:39:48 <GordCaswell> can you post the log to pastebin and link it here?
13:39:48 <GordCaswell> can you post the log to pastebin and link it here?
13:42:23 <Rico319> my real question is -- why is there not all the required text files in the template 2.4 that a user could use as a starting point to develop an app?
13:42:23 <Rico319> my real question is -- why is there not all the required text files in the template 2.4 that a user could use as a starting point to develop an app?
13:42:55 <Rico319> the template 2.4 is just a bunch of folders.
13:42:55 <Rico319> the template 2.4 is just a bunch of folders.
13:51:49 <GordCaswell> which files are you asking about? the only files that aren't there are the ones that are custom-built for each app, so shouldn't be in the template.
13:51:49 <GordCaswell> which files are you asking about? the only files that aren't there are the ones that are custom-built for each app, so shouldn't be in the template.
13:52:37 <GordCaswell> in other words, you only need to write appinfo.ini and launcher.ini, as well as include you icons
13:52:37 <GordCaswell> in other words, you only need to write appinfo.ini and launcher.ini, as well as include you icons
14:00:42 <Rico319> it would be nice if those files were included to show the structured format to show the new guys the proper way write the file.
14:00:42 <Rico319> it would be nice if those files were included to show the structured format to show the new guys the proper way write the file.
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18:20:18 <ersoy> hi
18:20:18 <ersoy> hi
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