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04:45:07 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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18:31:26 <GordCaswell> Ah, good, you're on, JohnTHaller
18:31:38 <GordCaswell> saves me an email :)
18:34:56 <JohnTHaller> brb phone
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18:38:20 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
18:38:26 <JohnTHaller> sup GordCaswell?
18:38:37 <ZachThibeau> good afternoon everyone
18:39:24 <JohnTHaller> hola
18:39:39 <GordCaswell> had some clarification for you regarding picpick - seems to be sme confusion, from what i can tell. You able to take a PM, or prefer it to be logged?
18:39:44 <GordCaswell> hey ZachThibeau
18:40:19 <JohnTHaller> Either way is fine
18:40:35 <GordCaswell> k. i'll toss it in here then, keep things public.
18:43:10 <GordCaswell> Regarding tapsklaps' concern about the PAI custom code I added - That code is only used in the event that Data already exists, and the version is pre-x.x (current version). It should NOT be in the launcher.ini, as the base app writes the INI string automatically otherwise. The reason I added the custom code is that if it is left out, the app still launches properly, but it shows the settings screen on first launch of the updated version,
18:43:10 <GordCaswell> which it shouldn't, according to my testing of the base app's behaviour.
18:43:10 <GordCaswell> CheckUpdate FileWrite: This section is in place to ensure that the automatic update check is reset prior to running, for portable user friendliness. That's the same reason the RegistryValueBackupDelete is used, with regards to running on Windows Startup.
18:43:11 <GordCaswell> The customfirstrundone variable in custom.nsh ensures that the value is written to PicPickPortableSettings.ini only once.
18:43:40 <GordCaswell> err...that was supposed to have some spaces in between paragraphs
18:44:31 <JohnTHaller> Last I checked we needed the custom write of the version number to stop it from popping up settings after each upgrade.
18:46:01 <GordCaswell> you're right, and that's why i put the code for it in installercustom.nsh. it doesn't need to be written by the launcher.ini every run, though, just on install. if Data is deleted, the base app writes the version number itself, so we don't need to worry about until the next upgrade.
18:46:23 <JohnTHaller> But it brings up settings, which we don't want.
18:46:57 <JohnTHaller> Unless behavior changed in the last version, it brings up settings on every single upgrade (which is when it writes the version to the file)
18:47:41 <JohnTHaller> It's done that since we first released it. It's annoying, but it's been the way it works
18:56:32 <GordCaswell> interesting...i thought it would do it again when i tested, but it looks like the base app has fixed that problem somehow. It looks like PortableApps.comInstallerCustom is superfluous. I just verified by dropping in a Data directory from 3.2.6, which incidentally shows 3250 as the firstrun value. When running PicPickPortable, the base app updates the firstrun value to 3270 itself, and doesn't show the settings anymore. Looks like you can
18:56:32 <GordCaswell> delete PortableApps.comInstallerCustom.nsh, although the remaining changes in launcher.ini and Custom.nsh should stay.
18:57:44 <GordCaswell> I'm going to start a new thread to explain in detail for tapsklaps what each individual change does, unless you'd like to split the conversation from Outdated Apps and just keep going from there.
18:58:10 <JohnTHaller> Start a new thread in the forums to explain it. He sent me the build and I'll make the changes for release.
18:58:42 <GordCaswell> Ok, i'll do so now.
19:46:15 <GordCaswell> Ok, here it is. It appears the settings menu not showing up for me on upgrade must've been a fluke, because i can't get it to do that again. Looks like we're stuck with the settings being shown after all.
19:46:18 <GordCaswell> http://portableapps.com/node/38016
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20:00:10 <GordCaswell> I'm off for a bit, feel free to comment on that thread. Later all!
20:00:58 <GordCaswell> Oh, and a quick update on my dad, JohnTHaller: He's out of the CCU, into a normal ward, and feeling better. Should be home in the next few days, but will have to take it easy for the next 3 months.
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20:57:27 <JohnTHaller> Glad to hear he's hanging in!
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20:59:47 <pa_4534> Will the real John T Haller please stand up?
21:00:49 <JohnTHaller> I'm actually heading out, I have a train to catch.
21:01:05 <JohnTHaller> I tried calling you back a few times but only got voicemail
21:01:07 <pa_4534> I understand. Thought you'd be gone. We'
21:01:14 <pa_4534> I know.
21:01:17 <pa_4534> no worries.
21:01:45 <pa_4534> we can talk anytime this weekend.. Good feedback to give you; but - we'll cover it later.
21:02:07 <JohnTHaller> I'll ping you on Sunday
21:02:15 <pa_4534> Ill be on the site doing some homework for a while. I
21:02:16 <pa_4534> ok
21:02:26 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing. Any questions just email me.
21:02:30 <pa_4534> i'll possibly send you a report prior to that.no promises.
21:02:46 <pa_4534> sorry - what address..
21:03:14 <JohnTHaller> I gave it to you the other day. I'll ping you now. No personal details in here. This chat is publicly logged and indexed.
21:03:38 <pa_4534> FYI - livedrive.com is offering $15 per lead; and $200 if they convert.. more later.
21:03:58 <pa_4534> right right right
21:04:23 <pa_4534> which i just noticed. is a treasure trove of key words :)
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