IRC Log from 2013-09-12
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00:23:49 <GordCaswell> hiya JohnTHaller1
00:24:36 <GordCaswell> Good luck in San Fran
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00:25:08 <JohnTHaller> thanks GordCaswell. Mostly lowkey. Doing a meetup and a couple meetings.
00:25:14 <JohnTHaller> Debating a move out there, actually.
00:26:44 <GordCaswell> Oo.oO.. that's about as long as you can move in a straight line within the continental states!
00:26:58 <GordCaswell> at least, from where you are, anyway
00:27:03 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it is. And further than my CT to NYC jump in the 90s.
00:27:07 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller seems the dev of todolist wants the app removed from portableapps.com at least I think it's the developer
00:27:23 <GordCaswell> yeah, looks like it. Just saw that, too
00:28:27 <JohnTHaller> Well that's... odd. Especially for an open source project.
00:28:57 <ZachThibeau> indeed, one would think they would want to keep it, free promotion of their product
00:29:10 <JohnTHaller> It's registered to a generic account. But it is a 4 year old acct.
00:29:16 <JohnTHaller> generic email account, i mean
00:29:45 <ZachThibeau> There is an email on his project page
00:30:10 <JohnTHaller> It's under the EPL, so we don't even need permission for the package.
00:30:20 <GordCaswell> Based on the owner of his codeproject page, I'd say it's the same person.
00:31:17 <JohnTHaller> If he doesn't want it, though, we can remove it and urge all users not to use it anymore. Suggesting Task Coach as the better alternative.
00:31:57 <ZachThibeau> I'm for one would at least try and negotiate if possible first, but that's my two cents
00:32:19 <ZachThibeau> lol technically We canadians don't have two cents to rub together anymore xD
00:32:35 <JohnTHaller> Oh I didn't mean outside of PA.c. I meant for PA.c users. So they can continue to update automatically and use the app store. Since we don't really care about ZIP apps.
00:32:48 <ZachThibeau> indeed
00:32:57 <GordCaswell> It's too bad, but I'm sure he has some reason. Maybe there's some concern he has we're not addressing?
00:33:21 <GordCaswell> lol ZachThibeau, I belive it's now your nickel...
00:33:25 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah, I'll drop him a note and see what's up. If it doesn't work, we can always just recompile and rebrand it.
00:33:39 <ZachThibeau> GordCaswell: True indeed lol
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00:34:17 <GordCaswell> Although based on the rules, two cents gets rounded down, so your original "doesn't exist" comment is still correct
00:35:19 <ZachThibeau> got to love the Canadian government taking away pennies, I actually used to collect them when I was in high school lol
00:35:32 <ZachThibeau> students flinging them away, I mean that was a waste of money
00:36:55 <JohnTHaller> Dropped the dev an email
00:37:27 <ZachThibeau> alright, hopefully we hear something and can work something out with the developer
00:39:53 <GordCaswell> Yeah. If not, like John said, if we wwant to keep it, we could just rebrand & recompile.
00:40:18 <ZachThibeau> if I drop out and sign back on, that's probably because power went out where I am, seems like every second day there is a thunder storm here :/
00:40:24 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, hopefully. Hope they don't think we're trying to take credit or money off it or something. They didn't have a donation link before but do now, so I added that in. We're probably overdue for an audit of app pages lacking donation links to the original publisher (to see if any new ones are up we don't have yet)
00:41:20 <GordCaswell> Yup. I can take a look through those. If you want to give me write privileges, I could even add them, otherwise I can just let you know.
00:41:34 <JohnTHaller> If it's support headaches, we can always recompile and rebrand and strip out his URL. It's a VC++ 6 build.
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00:45:30 * GordCaswell deletes what I was writing: Hi pa_2604. Is there something we
00:45:38 <GordCaswell> lol
00:47:26 <ZachThibeau> anyways a bit of good news on my end, I'm actually sleeping again, for close to a month I had a bit of a problem with insomnia but for the past 2 nights I slept real good
00:48:15 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller http://portableapps.com/node/38139#comment-210104 and http://portableapps.com/node/38139#comment-210105
00:48:34 <ZachThibeau> I don't know if the dev replied to you or not but he's active in the forums
00:48:37 <JohnTHaller> I saw, I dropped him an email. I'm sure we can work something out. And if not, we can fork it.
00:50:51 <ZachThibeau> and you say it's a vc++6 build?
00:51:13 <JohnTHaller> Yup. Opened up the VC++ workspace file in Notepad++ to check.
00:51:55 <ZachThibeau> should make it simple to compile via mingw if you decide to fork it, I could probably easily make a drop in makefile for gcc etc, or even a code blocks project solution file
00:52:26 <JohnTHaller> I'd rather not do a full fork. We'll compile it in VC++ and just rebrand each release so he doesn't have to worry about supporting it.
00:52:41 <JohnTHaller> If support is his only issue, we can alleviate that with a rebrand.
00:52:51 <GordCaswell> Sorry guys, I'm still here, just communicating with a dev regarding a new possible app :)
00:53:25 <ZachThibeau> cool
00:54:56 <GordCaswell> John, do you have an image on the site with the downloader listing apps?
00:55:15 <GordCaswell> Never mind, found it\
00:55:34 <JohnTHaller> App store: http://portableapps.com/platform/features#appstore
00:55:45 <JohnTHaller> Updater: http://portableapps.com/platform/features#updater
00:55:49 <JohnTHaller> For handy direct reference
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00:59:03 <GordCaswell> Excellent, thanks
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01:00:39 <ZachThibeau> sorry all, power died on me
01:02:06 <GordCaswell> Heh, figured
01:02:28 <ZachThibeau> the area I'm in apparently power goes out easily
01:04:49 <ZachThibeau> a bit of a nuisance at times even when it's not raining out
01:19:05 <JohnTHaller> Probably worth pointing out to the dev what the PA.c Platform adds. And that it's added 500,000 downloads of ToDoList in 2 years: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/ToDoList%20Portable/stats/timeline?dates=2010-01-01+to+2013-09-12
01:34:01 <GordCaswell> Heh...that alone might be a good one to point out. I used the "unique visitor" thing with this dev I'm corresponding with.
01:34:29 <GordCaswell> Anyhow, I'm off for now guys, talk to you later. John, I'll start going through apps for donation links tomorrow.
01:34:55 <JohnTHaller> Later GordCaswell. Thanks
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18:58:35 <m3b> hiya ppl
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21:56:28 <PM_> anyone here to give a little help i need?
22:00:53 <PM_> help!
22:00:53 <GizmoBot> PM_: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
22:01:14 <PM_> Having an issue when I try to download Teamviewer
22:01:53 <PM_> it does 1 of 1 steps, downloads, another download phase, but then I get a message "the downloaded copy of teamviewer portable is not valid and can not be installed"
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22:14:20 <tripleclones> PM_ long shot but do you have enough free space
22:14:50 <PM_> i think i do :P
22:15:10 <PM_> 145gb free space :)
22:16:19 <PM_> i did install other apps just fine... i just downloaded it from the site and it works fine, but there is defintely an issue when downloading from the app
22:19:13 <tripleclones> Yeah I seem to be having a problem atm as well
22:20:54 <tripleclones> I seem to be getting time out issues of the "App Directory"
22:20:59 <tripleclones> not just teamviewer
22:21:18 <PM_> what other programs?
22:21:28 <tripleclones> putty
22:21:38 <tripleclones> and just opening the app directory
22:22:33 <PM_> putty installed for me
22:23:02 <tripleclones> it did second time for me
22:23:19 <tripleclones> teamveiwer is giving me the same error as you still though
22:24:04 <PM_> probably something on teamviewers side, but someone should look into it
22:24:29 <PM_> but no ones here i guess to tell
22:28:36 <tripleclones> it seems as though it downloads it from teamviewer's website
22:28:46 <tripleclones> which is returning a 403
22:29:06 <tripleclones> but yeah I don't know whose responible
22:37:56 <PM_> who's :P
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