IRC Log from 2013-12-02

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02:51:47 <pa_5405> hello
02:52:13 <pa_5405> anyone around on a Sunday?
02:54:43 <pa_5405> help
02:54:44 <GizmoBot> pa_5405: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
02:57:37 <pa_5405> Question, I have a USB thumb drive that I have installed a malformed autorun.inf file upon to protected it from programs altering the file. The problem is Portableapps will not run because it sees this file as a file that has been taken over by a virus. How do I get around this limitation? Thank You Wayne
03:21:43 <pa_5405> babon help
03:24:41 <pa_5405> help
03:24:41 <GizmoBot> pa_5405: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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03:25:12 <pa_5405> tripleclones
03:26:46 <pa_5405> zoo1
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03:31:25 <pa_5405> badon hello
03:32:55 <pa_5405> maybe?
03:33:11 <Gizmokid2005> pa_5405: I don't think there's a way right now to get around that
03:33:22 <Gizmokid2005> the same protection (not in the same manner) is built into the platform itsel
03:33:32 <Gizmokid2005> *itself* to check the autorun to warn of virus issues
03:33:44 <Gizmokid2005> you'd be best to pose your questions in the forum though so the main dev can take a look.
03:35:03 <pa_5405> There you go. I have been looking on the site for a good hpur and not seeing this mentioned. It's unfortune that you just can't turn it off?
03:35:19 <Gizmokid2005> afaik there's no way to disable it
03:35:22 <Gizmokid2005> but I'm not positive.
03:36:55 <pa_5405> Yes, everything I have read indicates that your answer is correct. If it can't read the .inf file, it will not run.
03:37:11 <badon> pa_5405: hi
03:37:48 <pa_5405> Hello babon
03:38:04 <badon> You're missing an "o"
03:38:22 <pa_5405> You can see by my corresponace with Gizmokid2005 what I am asking?
03:38:36 <pa_5405> missing an "o" ?
03:39:07 <badon> pa_5405: Yes, "babon" with one more "o" would be "baboon".
03:39:08 <badon> :)
03:39:29 <badon> I did not see your original question for Gizmokid2005
03:40:04 <pa_5405> here it is: I have a USB thumb drive that I have installed a malformed autorun.inf file upon to protected it from programs altering the file. The problem is Portableapps will not run because it sees this file as a file that has been taken over by a virus. How do I get around this limitation? Thank You Wayne
03:40:40 <pa_5405> badon I have a USB thumb drive that I have installed a malformed autorun.inf file upon to protected it from programs altering the file. The problem is Portableapps will not run because it sees this file as a file that has been taken over by a virus. How do I get around this limitation? Thank You Wayne
03:41:17 <badon> What alters which file?
03:41:44 <pa_5405> I have a program that writes this file to the USB drive.
03:42:47 <pa_5405> badon I have a program that writes this file to the USB drive.
03:42:49 <badon> which file?
03:42:59 <badon> Which program?
03:43:10 <pa_5405> badon do I need to put your name before our correspondance?
03:43:29 <pa_5405> badon stand by
03:43:44 <badon> pa_5405: Only if I don't respond promptly. When you put the name before each line, it usually sort of "pages" the person you're addressing if they're not paying attention to the chat.
03:44:25 <badon> "alert" is what I meant. "paging" is kind of an obsolete term.
03:45:24 <pa_5405> name of program is BitDefender USB Immunizer
03:45:27 <badon> For example, I'm currently in around 100 other chat channels, in addition to multitasking for my daily routine work. So, I flip back and forth between things calling for my attention.
03:45:40 <badon> pa_5405: I see, let me look that up, one moment.
03:45:53 <pa_5405> it can be found here: http://www.softpedia.com/get/Antivirus/Removal-Tools/BitDefender-USB-Immunizer.shtml
03:46:33 <pa_5405> and here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/bitdefender_usb_immunizer.html
03:47:26 <badon> pa_5405: What version of Windows are you using?
03:49:06 <pa_5405> Windows 7 x64 but the portableapps will not run on any version of Windows because of this inf file that I am using.
03:50:01 <badon> Right.
03:50:07 <badon> One moment.
03:50:36 <pa_5405> Portableapps has no issue running on my hard drive but will not run on my thumb drive. If I remove the inf file from the thumb drive then portableapps runs.
03:51:47 <badon> pa_5405: The correct solution to this problem is to disable autorun, and not use the BitDefender software. BitDefender's method of stopping virus infections is very weak anyway.
03:51:49 <badon> http://lifehacker.com/5858703/disable-autorun-to-stop-50-of-windows-malware-threats
03:51:58 <badon> That's some easy info on how to disable autorun.
03:52:22 <pa_5405> the issue is that I do not always run Portableapps on the thumb drive and this malformed inf file protects the thumb drive.
03:53:00 <badon> Sometimes different antivirus techniques are incompatible, so we need to get you another solution that is compatible.
03:53:19 <badon> pa_5405: I suggest renaming autorun.inf to autorun.inf.disabled
03:53:59 <badon> Then, when you leave to use your USB drive somewhere else, removed the ".disabled" part to restore the effectiveness of the malformed .inf file you're using.
03:54:20 <pa_5405> I'm sorry, don't understand what you are asking me to do?
03:54:50 <pa_5405> Sorry answered to quickly
03:55:03 <badon> Ok, nevermind about that. Simply stop using the BitDefender product. It will not protect your USB drive from becoming infected when you use it on another computer.
03:55:46 <badon> Disable autorun on your computer, and then use quality antivirus like Avira. That is about the best you can do to protect yourself from viruses.
03:55:58 <badon> Do you have antivirus software?
03:56:05 <pa_5405> it stops it from being the autorun.inf file from being infected and that is why I use it
03:56:43 <pa_5405> it stops the autorun.inf file from being infected
03:56:48 <badon> no, it doesn't.
03:56:55 <pa_5405> yes it does.
03:57:03 <badon> No, I promise you, it doesn't.
03:57:05 <pa_5405> I can not rename the file
03:57:12 <pa_5405> I can not read from the file
03:57:36 <pa_5405> Windows always gives a access denided
03:57:49 <pa_5405> when you try to read or alter this file
03:57:55 <badon> Any computer you plug your USB drive into can infect your PortableApps software with viruses.
03:58:02 <pa_5405> That is why portableapps will not run
03:58:13 <badon> pa_5405: You may need to use BitDefender USB Immunizer to remove it.
03:58:16 <pa_5405> portableapps believes that it has been altered
03:58:43 <badon> To prevent a virus from infecting your PortableApps software, you can use MultiPar.
03:59:04 <pa_5405> that is correct. I know how to remove it but I don't want to.
03:59:32 <badon> MultiPar will tell you if any files have been altered, and it can restore them to their original state.
03:59:38 <pa_5405> two partions one for potableapps?
03:59:44 <badon> https://www.livebusinesschat.com/smf/index.php?board=396.0
03:59:48 <badon> pa_5405: No.
04:00:06 <badon> pa_5405: You're jumping through a lot of hoops to do something that is almost totally ineffective anyway.
04:00:19 <badon> So, cut it out, and try another approach.
04:00:58 <badon> Format your USB drive after using FastCopy or MultiPar to be sure you have a good backup on your hard drive.
04:01:19 <pa_5405> I can but on all my drives I use including my usb hard drive use this malformed inf file
04:01:24 <badon> Then, copy it back over to your USB drive, and once again use FastCopy or MultiPar to be sure the copy was done correctly.
04:01:37 <badon> pa_5405: Right, that's why I'm telling you to stop using it.
04:02:33 <badon> It's like farting loudly to avoid someone you don't like. It might work sometimes, but there are simpler and easier ways to achieve that goal that don't have so many unintentional side effects.
04:02:43 <badon> I have to get back to work. Good luck, pa_5405 .
04:03:01 <pa_5405> OK I think you missing my point, why is portableapps so stuck on reading this file when an option to shut off this function would prevent my issue?
04:03:25 <pa_5405> thank you for your input. I don't agree but thank you.
04:03:33 <pa_5405> Don't work too hard :-)
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20:41:00 <pa_0630> what happened to portable apps 12.0 beta 2 or beta 3 which i am using now.
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