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15:43:16 <Aristar> well this is quite an empty channel
15:43:39 <Aristar> wondering if anyone knew if there was some command switches I could use to trigger the platform updater as a scheduled task of some sort?
15:44:01 <Aristar> (besides just scripting a kill/run script....)
15:44:17 <Aristar> not expecting auto updates but at least to get notified
15:44:31 <Aristar> (though auto updates like LiberKey would eventually be a nice feature)
15:45:48 <Aristar> (I did my research and also dug through some of the source code but couldn't find much)
15:49:03 <Aristar> (would also be nice if the platform could also periodically check on it's own at a user-defined interval)
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18:21:53 <Gizmokid2005> Aristar: currently it doesn't support that, that's largely outside of the "standard" use case as it can check on platform startup.
18:22:04 <Gizmokid2005> That's a good suggestion to drop on the forums though
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22:03:06 <Aristar> Gizmokid2005: thanks, was hoping there was some hidden cmd switch or something to trigger PortableAppsUpdater or some such. I did check forums and devs were not interested. there was a 3rd party one but very very outdated and broken.
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22:03:31 <Aristar> Gizmokid2005: thanks, was hoping there was some hidden cmd switch or something to trigger PortableAppsUpdater or some such. I did check forums and devs were not interested. there was a 3rd party one but very very outdated and broken.
22:04:45 <Aristar> I guess the "use case" is from a USB drive and to move from computer to computer, but in my case I install it locally and often don't reboot for weeks at a time. I like the platform as a sort of package manager, similar to Linux, and also to not clog up windows. also makes reinstalls much easier
22:04:45 <Aristar> I guess the "use case" is from a USB drive and to move from computer to computer, but in my case I install it locally and often don't reboot for weeks at a time. I like the platform as a sort of package manager, similar to Linux, and also to not clog up windows. also makes reinstalls much easier
22:08:22 <Aristar> is the portableapps platform on github or anything? all I see is a source code tarball or zip on sourceforge. one could much easier submit a pull request
22:08:22 <Aristar> is the portableapps platform on github or anything? all I see is a source code tarball or zip on sourceforge. one could much easier submit a pull request
22:11:23 <Aristar> I imagine devs are very careful about adding anything to the main platform, however, but it shouldn't be too hard for such a feature like a checkbox in the options to periodically check for updates, and even better if a timer could be specified like once a day. or a simple command switch to run the platform with like /MODE=UPDATE so it only checks and
22:11:23 <Aristar> I imagine devs are very careful about adding anything to the main platform, however, but it shouldn't be too hard for such a feature like a checkbox in the options to periodically check for updates, and even better if a timer could be specified like once a day. or a simple command switch to run the platform with like /MODE=UPDATE so it only checks and
22:11:23 <Aristar> notifies or opens the updater to prompt for updates
22:11:23 <Aristar> notifies or opens the updater to prompt for updates
22:12:14 * Aristar shrugs, I'll search the forums some more I suppose... since submitting a patch or pull would likely be difficult and get rejected
22:12:14 * Aristar shrugs, I'll search the forums some more I suppose... since submitting a patch or pull would likely be difficult and get rejected
22:13:20 <Aristar> Oh there's a SVN on sourceforge
22:13:20 <Aristar> Oh there's a SVN on sourceforge
22:13:33 <Aristar> hmm https://sourceforge.net/p/portableapps/code/HEAD/tree/
22:13:33 <Aristar> hmm https://sourceforge.net/p/portableapps/code/HEAD/tree/
22:13:45 <Aristar> looks old
22:13:45 <Aristar> looks old
22:16:19 <Aristar> yeah that's the really old one I'd found on the forums...
22:16:19 <Aristar> yeah that's the really old one I'd found on the forums...
22:20:55 <Aristar> not seeing the updater on mercurial either
22:20:55 <Aristar> not seeing the updater on mercurial either
22:26:52 <Aristar> well i guess this has been asked before and JTH was saying he would get around to it but i suppose he never did.
22:26:53 <Aristar> well i guess this has been asked before and JTH was saying he would get around to it but i suppose he never did.
22:30:55 <Aristar> yeah even the sourceforge svs/murcurial or whatever is 6+yrs old, only source in zip
22:30:55 <Aristar> yeah even the sourceforge svs/murcurial or whatever is 6+yrs old, only source in zip
22:30:59 <Aristar> oh well
22:30:59 <Aristar> oh well
22:40:10 <Aristar> AHA i found the switches after looking through the source!
22:40:10 <Aristar> AHA i found the switches after looking through the source!
22:40:13 <Aristar> PortableAppsUpdater.exe /MODE=UPDATE /CONNECTION=Automatic
22:40:13 <Aristar> PortableAppsUpdater.exe /MODE=UPDATE /CONNECTION=Automatic
22:40:29 <Aristar> not sure if /ADVANCED=true is needed
22:40:29 <Aristar> not sure if /ADVANCED=true is needed
22:42:27 <OliverK> that sounds like john
22:42:27 <OliverK> that sounds like john
22:42:34 <OliverK> done when its done and then its never done
22:42:34 <OliverK> done when its done and then its never done
22:42:54 <OliverK> i'm not surprised the svs is that old
22:42:54 <OliverK> i'm not surprised the svs is that old
22:52:12 <Aristar> seems like this works, needs /CONNECTION=Direct or Automatic and /MODE=UPDATE and if you add /STARTUP=true it'll silently check instead of popping up a dialogue box saying all portableapps are up to date
22:52:12 <Aristar> seems like this works, needs /CONNECTION=Direct or Automatic and /MODE=UPDATE and if you add /STARTUP=true it'll silently check instead of popping up a dialogue box saying all portableapps are up to date
22:52:40 <Aristar> found the switches in the source of "PortableApps.comUpdater.nsi"
22:52:40 <Aristar> found the switches in the source of "PortableApps.comUpdater.nsi"
22:53:01 <Aristar> /STARTUP=true seems to turn on /SILENT switches
22:53:01 <Aristar> /STARTUP=true seems to turn on /SILENT switches
22:53:17 <Aristar> since the platform startup usually calls the updater with that mode
22:53:17 <Aristar> since the platform startup usually calls the updater with that mode
23:02:30 <Aristar> yeah i think i get how this works now... when the platform starts and "check for updates: on platform startup" is enabled, it calls PortableAppsUpdater.exe with similar flags and /STARTUP=true so there isn't a dialogue box saying everything is up to date. only when manually checking for updates within the menu it doesn't call /STARTUP=true or sets it to
23:02:30 <Aristar> yeah i think i get how this works now... when the platform starts and "check for updates: on platform startup" is enabled, it calls PortableAppsUpdater.exe with similar flags and /STARTUP=true so there isn't a dialogue box saying everything is up to date. only when manually checking for updates within the menu it doesn't call /STARTUP=true or sets it to
23:02:30 <Aristar> false so it notifies you it's up to date. but either way it should pop up the window of available updates if it finds any
23:02:30 <Aristar> false so it notifies you it's up to date. but either way it should pop up the window of available updates if it finds any
23:03:07 <Aristar> i'm about to test it if i can find an out of date copy
23:03:07 <Aristar> i'm about to test it if i can find an out of date copy
23:06:18 <Aristar> possibly may also need /BETA=false /OPENSOURCEONLY=false
23:06:20 <Aristar> possibly may also need /BETA=false /OPENSOURCEONLY=false
23:06:20 <Aristar> not sure
23:06:20 <Aristar> not sure
23:06:27 <Aristar> maybe reads from config file tho
23:06:27 <Aristar> maybe reads from config file tho
23:06:44 <Aristar> or the platform does and passes it to the updater
23:06:44 <Aristar> or the platform does and passes it to the updater
23:15:43 <Aristar> IT WORKS!
23:15:43 <Aristar> IT WORKS!
23:15:58 <Aristar> found a old btrfs snapshot of my portableapps and ran this:
23:15:58 <Aristar> found a old btrfs snapshot of my portableapps and ran this:
23:16:01 <Aristar> PortableAppsUpdater.exe /CONNECTION=Automatic /STARTUP=true /STARTUPSHOWERRORS=true /BETA=false /ADVANCED=true /OPENSOURCEONLY=false /MODE=UPDATE
23:16:01 <Aristar> PortableAppsUpdater.exe /CONNECTION=Automatic /STARTUP=true /STARTUPSHOWERRORS=true /BETA=false /ADVANCED=true /OPENSOURCEONLY=false /MODE=UPDATE
23:16:29 <Aristar> with an up to date copy it didn't show any output since it's /SILENT=true if it doesn't find any updates
23:16:29 <Aristar> with an up to date copy it didn't show any output since it's /SILENT=true if it doesn't find any updates
23:16:50 <Aristar> nice, now I can create a scheduled task to run this
23:16:50 <Aristar> nice, now I can create a scheduled task to run this
23:17:30 <Aristar> (doesn't auto update of course, shows the updater window to prompt you to install the updates if it finds any, and it worked to update the platform itself as well)
23:17:31 <Aristar> (doesn't auto update of course, shows the updater window to prompt you to install the updates if it finds any, and it worked to update the platform itself as well)
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