IRC Log from 2012-04-06
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00:52:29 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
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00:53:21 <GizmoBot> Fri, 06 Apr 2012 00:53:21 GMT
00:54:13 <vf2nsr> ok GizmoBot what is difference between gmt and utc?
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01:06:21 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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01:18:10 <JohnTHaller> PortableApps.com Installer 3.0 Pre-Release 1 is up for a quick round of testing: http://portableapps.com/node/31771
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01:18:52 <JohnTHaller> hola kAlug
01:19:08 <kAlug> hi JohnTHaller; are you going to stay online for a while?
01:19:18 <JohnTHaller> No. Dinner is on the way.
01:19:23 <JohnTHaller> You need something?
01:20:48 <kAlug> Just two:
01:21:22 <JohnTHaller> Dinner just arrived, so I hope they are quickies :)
01:21:41 <kAlug> 1. On the Installer's pre-release, are you checking the value of the AllowInstallOn$PROGRAMFILES case-sensitively?
01:21:50 <JohnTHaller> No
01:21:58 <JohnTHaller> Oh wait. Yes
01:22:23 <kAlug> Ok. Will update PAL accordingly.
01:22:49 <JohnTHaller> And 2?
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01:23:03 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
01:23:15 <kAlug> 2. Have you ever done `${If} <anStr> startswith <anotherStr>` on NSIS code?
01:24:09 <kAlug> That's all.
01:24:33 <JohnTHaller> I have not since switching to Unicode NSIS. I think you can accomplish that using some bits of WordFind or similar, though.
01:25:54 <kAlug> Is just that Chris code had exactly that, and he said he managed to build it, and it seems to be undocumented… Perhaps I'm looking on the wrong header files.
01:26:15 <JohnTHaller> I don't think that is a built-in function. It's likely a custom one elsewhere in the code.
01:26:47 <kAlug> Yep. Same thought here.
01:27:01 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I must be off
01:27:06 <kAlug> Anyway, thank you. There's just one more question before PAL 2.2.
01:27:11 <JohnTHaller> What's that?
01:27:14 <kAlug> Not for you, by the way.
01:27:31 <JohnTHaller> Ah ok. Any chance it'll be done this weekend? If so, I'll hold LibreOffice 3.5.2 for it.
01:28:22 <kAlug> I wanted it to be. Code is in place, I'll make some more tests tomorrow…
01:29:01 <JohnTHaller> Ok, cool. Just let me know when you have an ETA. If we could get the fixed in LO, it'd be nice.
01:29:34 <kAlug> Alright.
01:30:21 <JohnTHaller> Thanks! And let me know what you think of the installer test, too
01:31:35 <kAlug> Sure. I think I have some apps to update anyway.
01:31:54 <JohnTHaller> Well, not yet. Final will likely be tomorrow along with the PAF 3.0 update
01:32:41 <JohnTHaller> ok, dinner
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01:33:37 <kAlug> hello JWHough
01:33:46 <JWHough> hey
01:33:57 <kAlug> How you doing?
01:34:04 <JWHough> Good
01:34:11 <JWHough> dang it, didn't know jth was here
01:34:22 <JWHough> I was testing the installer
01:34:42 <JWHough> works great, and I installed Google Chrome Portable
01:35:23 <kAlug> Can you post a screenshot of the branding? I'll be unable to see it for the next few hours.
01:35:23 <JWHough> and ran it accidentally forgetting I was running a local Chrome install. >_<. Now I'm trying to close all the background chrome.exe processes to get the launcher to close so I can delete it
01:35:40 <JWHough> ok
01:39:02 <JWHough> http://screenshooter.net/5313111/sjtdwwe
01:39:05 <JWHough> top is the icon
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01:39:26 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
01:39:30 <JWHough> http://screenshooter.net/5313111/kirvffk
01:40:13 <kAlug> ty JWHough
01:40:22 <JWHough> looks good eh?
01:40:51 <kAlug> Yep. A bit plain, but interesting.
01:40:58 <kAlug> hi ZachThibeau
01:41:05 <ZachThibeau> hey kAlug
01:41:16 <JWHough> did you see the icon at the top?
01:41:42 <kAlug> Yep.
01:42:43 <ZachThibeau> that actually looks pretty well done
01:42:48 <JWHough> I thought maybe he'd built a way to include appicon the the box at first, though. but it still dont look bad
01:43:54 <JWHough> did you expect anything less ZachThibeau ? :P
01:44:28 <ZachThibeau> actually I wasn't expecting anything as I just got here :P
01:45:39 <ZachThibeau> reminds me, I need to setup some new graphics for PChat's installer and I need to get coding again too
01:46:10 <ZachThibeau> and rebuild my compiler suite too
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01:47:16 <JWHough> do you make the graphics yourself?
01:48:26 <ZachThibeau> the installer graphics I did myself but the main PChat icon a guy that goes by the username of neorame designed it
01:49:35 <ZachThibeau> kind of hard to do any compiling with a 12 year old laptop
01:51:03 <JWHough> and I thought my dead 10 year old was bad XD\
01:51:47 <ZachThibeau> lol my desktop is back home with my parents until I found a place to rent and now that I have I shall be taking it with me monday
01:52:48 <ZachThibeau> my parents gave me the deadbeat laptop as a temp thing
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01:56:01 <Ray039> Hey zach
01:58:18 <Ray039> Hello?
01:58:36 <ZachThibeau> hey Ray
01:59:02 <Ray039> In the off topic forums I there is a case of spam in there
01:59:10 <Ray039> Just a heads up
01:59:30 <ZachThibeau> already working on that
01:59:36 <ZachThibeau> thanks though
01:59:42 <Ray039> Ok
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02:11:04 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
02:11:25 <ZachThibeau> hey GordCaswell
02:11:34 <GordCaswell> vf2nsr|away: GMT == UTC
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02:11:38 <GordCaswell> hey ZachThibeau
02:12:16 <ZachThibeau> sup?
02:12:36 <GordCaswell> not too much...updating apps, lol
02:12:57 <GordCaswell> you?
02:12:57 <ZachThibeau> I'm finally getting my desktop back, I finally got my apartment
02:13:03 <GordCaswell> nice
02:13:07 <ZachThibeau> yup
02:13:47 <GordCaswell> where're you at? freddie? no wait, i think you mentioned miramichi once, right?
02:13:49 <ZachThibeau> then I can get working on coding finally again
02:13:57 <ZachThibeau> and I'm in moncton now
02:14:04 <ZachThibeau> I used to live in Miramichi though
02:14:09 <GordCaswell> ah, nice city.
02:14:19 <GordCaswell> i think i went there twice or so....
02:14:33 <ZachThibeau> working for bell aliant selling fibre op internet :P
02:14:54 <GordCaswell> ooo....cushy job....
02:14:57 <GordCaswell> lol
02:15:03 <GordCaswell> that'dbe pretty fun
02:15:12 <ZachThibeau> actually I'm third party so I don't get the same benefits as first party reps
02:17:26 <ZachThibeau> the only benefits I may get maybe so much off my own fibre optic internet service
02:18:20 <GordCaswell> well, there's that, at least
02:18:50 <ZachThibeau> true
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02:58:02 <kAlug|Away> hi GordCaswell
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02:58:08 <GordCaswell> hi kAlug
02:58:12 <GordCaswell> How's it going?
02:59:08 <kAlug> Good. Updating Chromium Portable now and going to download LaTeX afterwards. May update some apps in the meantime.
02:59:20 <GordCaswell> nice.
02:59:23 <GordCaswell> Which apps?
02:59:39 <kAlug> I've been looking at domain prices at GoDaddy. So cheap...
03:00:09 <kAlug> Not sure yet. Have to check which ones are outdated. HTTrack is, IIRC.
03:00:16 <kAlug> Why?
03:00:45 <GordCaswell> just trying to make sure i'm not stepping on too many toes with the tons of updates i've been doing
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03:02:21 <kAlug> wb vf2nsr
03:02:34 <vf2nsr> ty
03:05:23 <vf2nsr> so are we having fun yet?
03:06:00 <GordCaswell> naturally
03:06:23 <kAlug> Hey, how does Arkhmud sounds for a nickname?
03:06:24 <vf2nsr> same here been working on a new dev app
03:06:58 <vf2nsr> http://amarok.kde.org/ got it 95% ready to release as dev
03:08:06 <kAlug> vf2nsr: Amarok? That will be great.
03:08:07 <GordCaswell> nice. are you using the existing portable package as your base, or starting with the full install?
03:08:21 <vf2nsr> exising for now
03:08:29 <vf2nsr> sinc eit has dependencies built in
03:08:46 <GordCaswell> good stuff. I prefer doing that myself, it tends to make things quicker
03:08:46 <vf2nsr> Lot of QT garbage thou
03:09:10 <GordCaswell> most of the QT stuff that gets installed by programs isn't garbage...not like KDE
03:09:13 <vf2nsr> but need some real testing for the gpodder and last.fm and amazon things since I do not use
03:09:46 <vf2nsr> I just meant had to sort thru the 176 entries it made
03:09:51 <GordCaswell> ah
03:09:53 <vf2nsr> and make sure I git them all clean
03:10:18 <GordCaswell> that's alot...all the various audio formats?
03:10:24 <vf2nsr> Looks like but I too chicken to check that it is basically the regular release but run thru a lenghty bat file for variable
03:10:43 <vf2nsr> yup so that is why I need lots of testing
03:10:57 <GordCaswell> gotcha
03:11:26 <vf2nsr> got it ready to pack just need to create the help
03:12:05 <vf2nsr> also I might need a few to do some other testing for me on it (modified from my release)
03:13:06 <vf2nsr> I get no errors but do not wuite understand the cmd window details
03:13:22 <vf2nsr> which btw I hide on the release as really not needed for average user
03:13:37 <kAlug> What about calling the exe directly?
03:14:00 <vf2nsr> seems like the portable aspect of it is in the bat file
03:14:10 <vf2nsr> and way to much for a commnadline argument
03:14:14 <vf2nsr> hang on sec
03:14:17 <kAlug> paste?
03:14:19 <GordCaswell> yes, you can usually take whatever's being done by the bat, and pull it out of the bat, incorporating it into PAL
03:14:25 <vf2nsr> about to do so
03:15:32 <vf2nsr> http://pastebin.com/1PHNnQ9j
03:16:04 <vf2nsr> Well that is what I figured GordCaswell get some to test it the way it is but test the features and reg shot them
03:16:27 <vf2nsr> and get some like you and kalug to maybe assist with the portable aspect so to speak?
03:16:48 <vf2nsr> as a lot of the features are through scripts
03:16:55 <GordCaswell> ok, all that SET stuff is environment variables, easy to take care of...
03:17:00 <vf2nsr> BUT out of the box it is clean now from bat
03:17:17 <kAlug> [Environment], DefaultData and [Launch]:BeforeRun
03:17:30 <kAlug> I believe that's what you're going to need.
03:17:51 <vf2nsr> there are also a couple of xml I need to look at that are from what I can tell config
03:17:59 <kAlug> Maybe some custom code on PostPrimary.
03:18:39 <vf2nsr> yup that is why I thinking 2 releases the general user for testing out features and the "techie" one for assistance so to speak
03:18:55 <vf2nsr> not sure yet still thinking on it
03:19:04 <kAlug> Dev tests are, well, for testing.
03:19:26 <kAlug> i.e. *dev* testing
03:19:28 <vf2nsr> I understand but I sor tof need 2 type sof testing
03:19:49 <vf2nsr> one for actual use and one to maybe help tweak the whole thing?
03:20:19 <kAlug> Just the latter.
03:20:25 <vf2nsr> or maybe I should just try to tweak before making a relase?
03:20:41 <kAlug> Release early, release often.
03:21:18 <vf2nsr> ok then if I go with what I have one wuestion do I hide the commnad window which is really just in the way or leave it open?
03:21:36 <GordCaswell> if it doesn't need to stay visible, hide it.
03:22:16 <vf2nsr> my thought BUT there is some stuff that it does show I do not understand not sur eif it is my system or the program sort of errors but not really errors
03:22:41 <GordCaswell> does the program run, though?
03:22:47 <vf2nsr> something about not loading headers so it skips them
03:22:53 <vf2nsr> Yes as faik
03:23:02 <vf2nsr> but not sure about all of the features?
03:23:10 <vf2nsr> since there are many I do not use
03:23:24 <GordCaswell> don't worry about that, we'll make sure that's taken care of through testing
03:23:28 <vf2nsr> like amazon music gpodder amd the many miusic things
03:24:22 <vf2nsr> ok then if I can switch up the help files will post it in an hour or so otherwise I could post it real quick but still have default help
03:25:16 <GordCaswell> Eh? it shouldn't take an hour to change the strings in help.html...
03:25:34 <vf2nsr> well it wil if I keep typing here lol
03:25:40 <vf2nsr> and hten upload it
03:25:45 <GordCaswell> lol
03:25:52 <vf2nsr> and of course struggle with the posting
03:26:05 <vf2nsr> cause remember I not a programmer or html brain
03:26:29 <vf2nsr> so in that case
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03:26:47 <vf2nsr|away> lol
03:27:17 <kAlug> This may be interesting to keep an eye on: http://torrentfreak.com/mediafire-shocked-by-hollywood-smear-campaign-120404/
03:31:17 <vf2nsr|away> kAlug: with all the qt related dll should I compact it first if I do it saves 25mb
03:31:33 <vf2nsr|away> 27 mb
03:31:55 <kAlug> Yup. Be careful with anything on the imageformats folders. Exclude those DLLs in AppCompactor.ini.
03:32:13 <vf2nsr|away> grr guess may be longer on release tehn
03:32:36 <vf2nsr|away> cause I need to test it and I never wrote a appcompactor ini before
03:32:46 <vf2nsr|away> maybe just relase it uncompacted for now?
03:35:34 <kAlug> Hold on...
03:35:36 <vf2nsr|away> yup definitely will not compact out of box I hav eno idea how to write the ini for compactor
03:35:38 <vf2nsr|away> ok
03:36:27 <kAlug> http://p.kalug.net/5
03:36:34 <kAlug> Is what I use for Clementine.
03:36:42 <vf2nsr|away> ok let me look
03:37:09 <GordCaswell> then just add whatever else you need
03:37:43 <vf2nsr|away> the problem is that GordCaswell not sure what I need me thinnking I over my head again as usual
03:38:09 <GordCaswell> pretty much anything that starts with q and ends in .dll is a good start
03:38:36 <vf2nsr|away> ok hang on got a weird thing on computer need to shut down a few thing bb5
03:38:47 <kAlug> And it's not in the main folder (e.g. QtSvg4.dll, QtGui4.dll, ...)
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03:40:30 <kAlug> PAF 3.0, PAI 3.0... I wished we could release PAL 3.0 too.
03:42:55 <GordCaswell> yeah, that'd be nice...i could get rid of a bunch of custom code for a number of apps
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03:45:57 <GizmoBot> vf2nsr Developer for PortableApps Current apps list is at http://portableapps.com/node/30620
03:46:20 <vf2nsr> sorry about that
03:46:40 <vf2nsr> you can resume talking about me now
03:46:42 <vf2nsr> lol
03:47:08 <GordCaswell> vf2nsr: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/?t=2012-04-06#T03-38-47
03:47:18 <vf2nsr> I was kidding
03:47:55 <GordCaswell> i was pointing out the rest of kAlug's comment regarding appcompactor
03:48:07 <vf2nsr> ok readin gnow
03:49:06 <vf2nsr> and sorting through ton of folders to see what I need to exclude thinkng mayb erelase it uncompacted initially then figure it out? or should I wait and get it compacted first?
03:49:28 <kAlug> Uncompacted.
03:49:59 <vf2nsr> I tend to agree is it safe to relase it with the new installer or should I you se old?
03:50:30 <kAlug> Use the new. It's for devs anyway.
03:50:49 <GordCaswell> And it'll be getting released officially tomorrow anyway
03:50:58 <vf2nsr> good cause just installed it and did not want to dl the old
03:51:04 <kAlug> But put somewhere in the beta testing post: "This release is for developer testing only"
03:51:16 <vf2nsr> ??
03:51:26 <vf2nsr> ok it jus tmade sense
03:51:49 <vf2nsr> ok we are creating the installer lol
03:51:53 <kAlug> GordCaswell: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/?t=2012-04-06#T01-30-21
03:52:31 <GordCaswell> which part am i looking at?
03:53:05 <kAlug> 01:30:21 and the next 2 or 3 lines.
03:53:12 <kAlug> You can guess from the URL.
03:53:18 <GordCaswell> the code you reference just before there..you haven't pushed that to hg yet, right?
03:53:47 <kAlug> Nope. Just internal discussion.
03:54:01 <kAlug> Where internal = I + John + Chris.
03:54:03 <vf2nsr> btw GordCaswellsome time when you are not real busy I need to chat with ya about a couple of things
03:54:19 <GordCaswell> k. the stuff mentioned in /dev? or even more internal?
03:54:49 <GordCaswell> vf2nsr: sure, maybe tomorrow, if i have time.. Good Friday, might not have much, we'll see
03:55:08 <vf2nsr> ok just need an opinion on moral issue lol
03:55:25 <kAlug> A few emails were sent after that. We need to reactivate the mailing lists.
03:55:30 <vf2nsr> cause need no trouble with PA
03:55:40 <GordCaswell> ah, ok
03:55:50 <GordCaswell> yeah, that'd be good to have
03:56:03 <vf2nsr> if you prefer I can email and let you read and respond at your convience?
03:56:13 <GordCaswell> sure
03:56:27 <vf2nsr> ok ship something out tonigh tor tomorrow thanks
03:57:20 <kAlug> BTW GordCaswell, what is the status of the release team?
03:57:27 <vf2nsr> Wow not su reif me amarok or installer but this is probaly longest installer creation I ever had
03:58:01 <kAlug> App size?
03:58:13 <vf2nsr> 400 mb
03:58:19 <vf2nsr> and I can n ot use the one I created
03:58:24 <vf2nsr> dam
03:58:43 <GordCaswell> good question. We're waiting on John to ok new releases again, otherwise not much point in doing much more than we're currently doing, but i'll have to ask John once the 3.0 stuff is pushed out.
04:01:04 <vf2nsr> ok uploading to SF now then I willl write up release or at least try to lol
04:01:46 <vf2nsr> not bad installer dropped size to 88mb
04:02:06 <vf2nsr> orig is 390 installed
04:02:38 <vf2nsr> weird I miss the usb stick icon looks weird with the box
04:12:23 <GordCaswell> Well, I'm done for now. I'll update some more apps (maybe) tomorrow. Night, all!
04:12:42 <vf2nsr> nigth GordCaswell thanks
04:12:58 <GordCaswell> You're welcome
04:13:01 <kAlug> goog night Gord
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04:14:44 <GordCaswell> or rather, not quite
04:14:48 <GordCaswell> Hi JohnTHaller!
04:15:36 <JohnTHaller> Hi there
04:16:16 <GordCaswell> re: my latest email - do you have builds for the apps i listed, or would you like me to package them?
04:16:38 <vf2nsr> hola JohnTHaller
04:17:43 <JohnTHaller> I have builds.
04:18:26 <GordCaswell> Great! saves me from "working" on Good Friday...my wife'd shoot me. :)
04:19:20 <GordCaswell> In that case, have a good night all, again, I might be back tomorrow, but if I am, it won't likely be for long periods.
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04:19:50 <vf2nsr> ok ttyl GordCaswell
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04:20:51 <vf2nsr> installer looks good JohnTHaller just not use to box icon was looking for the usb stick lol
04:22:58 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Since we're promoting cloud and local installs, switching from the USB drive made sense.
04:24:01 <vf2nsr> cool I like it just caught me off guard
04:24:28 <JohnTHaller> Check it out at larger sizes, too. It incorporates a USB icon at 128px
04:25:29 <vf2nsr> will od I had just downloaded it and installed it an dactually used it for a dev I am posting just as soon as it uploads to sf
04:26:12 <vf2nsr> really what was funny was I created the dev and could not find it on desktop cause I was looking for old one took me a few to realize it
04:27:10 <vf2nsr> putting up amarok as a dev looks real good and is being updated might be good alternative fo rgpodder?
04:29:19 <vf2nsr> sometime when you have time ( which I know is never) can you email me download stats of Aquasnap the developer was curious
04:30:30 <JohnTHaller> i don't currently have them separated out for freeware but will in the near future
04:31:01 <vf2nsr> ah ok will let him know tyvm
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04:36:34 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
04:36:46 <vf2nsr> wb kAlug
04:36:52 <vf2nsr> Hi ya JWHough
04:37:03 <JWHough> howdy
04:39:14 <kAlug> ty
04:39:35 <kAlug> Ya, we're all back again.
04:40:12 <JWHough> For some reason, I lost connection to freenode that last time I had a ping timeout
04:40:13 <vf2nsr> kalug amarok is up feel free ot beat it to pieces lol
04:40:33 <JWHough> I tried connecting and it never worked via InstantBird, so I just went to church and just got back
04:40:53 <vf2nsr> jwh you on comcast by any chance?
04:40:58 <JWHough> Cox
04:41:36 <vf2nsr> ok was curious had some users on the other program I work for from your area on ComCast they were having all kinds of connectivity issues
04:42:04 <JWHough> ah
04:42:16 <JWHough> I'm really satisfied, though, with Cox
04:42:19 <JWHough> According to SpeedTest.net, I'm getting 29.74 Mbps on a connection that's supposed to be 30Mbps
04:42:24 <vf2nsr> so it might be a net thing or an isp
04:42:40 <vf2nsr> were you whrn you were having the issues?
04:42:40 <JWHough> maybe
04:42:47 <JWHough> whrn?
04:42:59 <vf2nsr> were
04:43:11 <vf2nsr> when
04:43:13 <vf2nsr> sorry
04:43:22 <vf2nsr> burn finger cooking
04:43:25 <vf2nsr> lol ouch
04:43:31 <vf2nsr> right on pad
04:44:00 <JWHough> I was busy trying to get Chrome back up and running. Then I got it, then I come back and I see "Account Disconnected"
04:47:05 <JWHough> Gosh I been so lazy lately
04:48:39 <JWHough> I go so school and I feel like doin squat. Then I come home and I feel like doin squat. Then my homework's due, but I still feel like doin squat.
04:53:43 <vf2nsr> bbiaf grabbing soda
04:54:17 <kAlug> Does http://stdlib.info/ looks a good domain?
04:55:49 <JWHough> what's it for?
04:56:03 <JWHough> standard libraries?
04:56:11 <JWHough> :P
04:56:33 <kAlug> I has been thinking on using it as a general-purpose website for me.
04:57:02 <kAlug> In the event I decide to change my Internet-wide nickname.
04:57:31 <kAlug> I wonder how would that look on a resumé :)
04:58:11 <JWHough> whatever rocks your boat. I would suggest something easy to memorize and displayed in many places on your site.
04:58:41 <JWHough> If you want a repeat visitors anyway.
05:00:00 <kAlug> Well, I'm a computer programmer, and I believe most programmers know how to write 'stdlib'. Specially C programmers.
05:00:21 <kAlug> I stumbled upon a stdout.org today.
05:00:54 <JWHough> Interesting
05:02:07 <kAlug> I'm going to start a somewhat big project in C++ soon, and I think I may want to create a blog to, well, post something I find useful.
05:03:23 <JWHough> for school, or for fun?
05:03:32 <vf2nsr> back
05:03:41 <kAlug> school
05:03:51 <kAlug> A web browser, specifically.
05:04:30 <JWHough> Neat
05:06:05 <kAlug> My teachers think it's too complex. I think I forgot to mention I'm going to use Qt and WebKit (Qt's browser demo is <500kb of source code).
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05:12:47 <vf2nsr> wow Aerok I getting tired thought it said amarok lol
05:13:29 <Aerok> Well, both words are like each other.
05:13:54 <vf2nsr> that and it is 113 am here lol
05:14:13 <Aerok> 214am here
05:14:51 <vf2nsr> newfoundland?
05:15:08 <Aerok> America/SaoPaulo (i.e. Brazil)
05:15:20 <JWHough> 10:15 pm here
05:15:57 <vf2nsr> ok hmm I thought I was ahead of you in Maine must be the daylight savings thing
05:16:19 <Aerok> JWHough: GMT-7... west coast?
05:16:28 <JWHough> Mountain Standard Time
05:16:34 <JWHough> Close
05:16:43 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: took a look Nice on the 128 size usb stick looks good on box
05:18:17 <Aerok> Wow... Chromium build was quick today... my computer is actually going *faster* than when I bought it O.O
05:20:34 <JohnTHaller> vf2nsr: cool
05:21:10 <vf2nsr> esI am impressed maybe I just need a new pair of glasses lol
05:21:27 <JohnTHaller> File Formats in the PA.c Platform: http://portableapps.com/node/31775
05:21:54 <JWHough> JohnTHaller I have a present for you: http://www.mediafire.com/?uc4hk1wya1hyvw1
05:21:59 <JWHough> you need chrome to use it
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05:23:05 <JWHough> ya'll others can try it, too
05:23:25 <JWHough> I might post it in the beta forums, if ya'll like it
05:23:55 <JohnTHaller> is it the ability to add search of the PA.c website to Chrome?
05:24:02 <JWHough> yeahp
05:24:05 <pa_4844> how does one reset a password? i keep getting access denied...
05:24:10 <JWHough> lol you like it?
05:24:30 <vf2nsr> password for forum?
05:24:58 <pa_4844> password to portableapps
05:25:10 <vf2nsr> portableapps.com website?
05:25:20 <pa_4844> yes please
05:25:53 <vf2nsr> hmm trying to remember the webmasters name
05:26:08 <Aerok> vf2nsr: John T. Haller?
05:26:41 <pa_4844> i requested for a password reset and receive an email.
05:27:00 <vf2nsr> ok sorry was just being cute so see if John would jump in
05:27:12 <JohnTHaller> pa_4844: In the email, do you click on the 1st link (not the 2nd one)
05:27:35 <pa_4844> this hyperlink takes me to the website and requests me to click ona button
05:28:00 <pa_4844> on clicking I get large bold words ... ACCESS DENIED
05:29:40 <Aerok> JohnTHaller: -dev
05:30:05 <pa_4844> no i clicked on the second one
05:30:15 <JohnTHaller> You have to click on the first one ONLY
05:31:37 <pa_4844> thanks, i'll try again
05:34:20 <pa_4844> didn;t help out as I go to the portableapps website and need a password to login
05:35:17 <JohnTHaller> 1. Request new password. 2. Click first link in email. 3. Click Login Now on site. 4. Enter a new password (twice) on your profile page.
05:35:23 <JohnTHaller> I just tried it to confirm it works
05:36:29 <pa_4844> perhaps I ought to mention that while registering i got interrupted with a maintenance page displaying a cup of tea
05:36:44 <JohnTHaller> Ah. That could do it. What account did you register?
05:37:05 <vf2nsr> maybe the crumbs from th ecookies go tin way John?
05:37:29 <pa_4844> then i get an email 10 minutes later that i was registered ... i never got to a screen where i could set up a password
05:37:58 <JohnTHaller> You create the password after you confirm the account.
05:38:02 <pa_4844> fernac0a
05:38:49 <JohnTHaller> pa_4844: Ok, I've removed it. You should be able to re-register it now :)
05:39:05 <JohnTHaller> Sorry about the confusion and running into our nightly backup cycle.
05:39:32 <pa_4844> thanks john
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05:47:52 <Aerok> hello TPFC-SYSTEM
05:48:02 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi Aerok
05:52:32 <JWHough> http://portableapps.com/node/31776
05:52:37 <JWHough> Night everyone
05:52:47 <JohnTHaller> gnight
05:53:05 <vf2nsr> night JohnTHaller thanks for all tonight
05:53:16 <JohnTHaller> sure thing
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05:53:24 <JohnTHaller> JWHough: I'll check that out tomorrow
05:53:34 <JWHough> ok
05:53:39 <JWHough> let me know what you think
05:53:54 <JWHough> (all icons used under license, btw)
05:54:00 <JohnTHaller> cool
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05:56:00 <Aerok> JWHough: Seems cool.
05:56:12 <vf2nsr> decided not to head to bed
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06:20:36 <Aerok> Almost crashing here. Good (morning|night|evening) everybody.
06:20:52 <vf2nsr> ty for your help Aerok
06:21:02 <JohnTHaller> Good * everyone
06:21:38 <vf2nsr> you crashing too john?
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06:21:59 <JohnTHaller> yeah. gonna head out of IRC and off IM in a min
06:22:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Cheers! :)
06:22:20 <vf2nsr> have a great one and a great holiday If I do not see ya
06:22:32 <JohnTHaller> No holiday for me... I'm working :)
06:22:37 <JohnTHaller> cheers!
06:22:42 <vf2nsr> I am about to call it quits now myself cause getting too frustrated about ntohing lol
06:22:52 <vf2nsr> will take your advice lol
06:23:25 <vf2nsr> same here just another day in paradise
06:23:28 <vf2nsr> night all
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23:02:46 <pa_1724> hi
23:02:58 <pa_1724> i am new to portable apps.com
23:03:02 <pa_1724> i need some help
23:03:37 <pa_1724> i have a normal software on my PC (normal .exe file). how do i make this into a portable app please?
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23:06:33 <pa_1724> ??
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23:56:05 <GizmoBot> JWHough JW Hough (aka Pyromaniac) is a developer at PortableApps.com and has been a member for over 3 years. You can find his apps at http://portableapps.com/node/26055
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23:59:29 <kAlug_> hi JWHough
23:59:39 <JWHough> hi
23:59:49 <kAlug_> How you doing?